GAY This S@#$ has to stop

[my little brony]

so it's quite ok for students to verbally assault other fellow students and educators should not be held responsible?

it's not ok but educators should not be held responsible for things they have zero control over. do you expect teachers to be able to hear what's coming out of the mouths of 30 different kids at the same time? what about when they're changing classes? are they expected to see and hear everything that goes on? one kid complaining about being bullied is not sufficient to do anything. what do you want a teacher to do? I've already explained that sitting the bully down will not solve anything. bullies don't listen to teachers. they. don't. care.

 

[Coqui]

No of course not. Years of torment, however, would put one in a mental state sufficient enough to devalue one's life to think suicide is viable.

And at what point are the parents liable for assisting with that mental state? And I don't mean asking the adinistration to make them stop, but teaching their child how to cope instead of putting the responsibility on the school?

 

[plot]

we had this program at our high school called 'peer mediation', where students were selected by teachers then trained to resolve problems between students. If a student was being bullied and it was reported to the vice principal, the vice principal would call the bully into the office, do that whole intimidation thing, then recommend peer mediation where the bully and the other kid would go into a room with 3 "peer mediators" and you'd talk out the problems or issues. one peer mediator was with each student, then the third took notes... when everything was resolved, the students got sent back to class, the peer mediators sent in their little report, and everyone for the most part was happy because they weren't going to be punished and the situation ended right there.

i only know all this because a kid wrote a 3 page letter to our vice principal once saying i was bullying him and I had to goto it.

I talked to two of the 'peer mediators' afterwards and they told me our thing was extremely tame. usually it's two chicks who start going at it, but they also said the whole little system seemed to work really well and resolve a lot of problems.

...so i wasn't a bully at all and dunno how i ended up in there, but when i went back to class after our little session and everyone was asking me wtf i got yanked, i told them i was in peer mediation. they all naturally assumed as a good student i was a peer mediator, was kind of awkward explaining to the teacher how i was the one being mediated.

 

[b_sinning]

I was a peer counselor. lol Just smoke up and everything will be ok.

 

[Syrup Beaver]

The scumbags that do the tormenting would've been the ones that got eaten by textile machinery in the 1800's, seems like we went astray when we ended child labour.

 

[JAXvillain]

starts count until mention of the gw bridge

 

[dbzeag]

starts count until mention of the gw bridge

Why do you say that? Recording webcam footage of private sexytime is wrong and crude, but not violent or malicious. The perps didn't blackmail the kid or anything, from what I read. The kid just reacted badly to the news he was recorded. I don't see any bullying tactics here. Teasing yes, bullying no.

 

[dbzeag]

So I guess what's everyone's take on this?

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/exclusive-broken-arm-boy-cheerleader-threatened/story?id=11753915

The boy cheerleader whose arm was allegedly broken by bullies on the football team said today that his schoolmates are now threatening to break his other arm for telling.

And this was at school on school grounds. I think the school as a duty to protect students from threats, surely.

 

[Coqui]

So I guess what's everyone's take on this?

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/exclusive-broken-arm-boy-cheerleader-threatened/story?id=11753915

And this was at school on school grounds. I think the school as a duty to protect students from threats, surely.

My take is, that's why you don't just tattle. We said this was going to happen if you tattle.

However, now the school does have the requirement to take action. But the best option won't be the action you would prefer I'm sure. (Which is transferring the student with the broken arm)

 

[Coqui]

Although, he needs to fight fire with fire.

"I get to put my hand on a girls crotch all the time. Your QB shoves his hands into a fat guys ass. And you call me a fag?"

 

[dbzeag]

My take is, that's why you don't just tattle. We said this was going to happen if you tattle.

However, now the school does have the requirement to take action. But the best option won't be the action you would prefer I'm sure. (Which is transferring the student with the broken arm)

My prescription would be for the educators would be to suspend the kid offering threats just like a bomb threat prescribes a suspension with a stern warning that threats of violence are not tolerated and in some cases against the law, and then a phone call to the kid's parents.

 

[dbzeag]

Although, he needs to fight fire with fire.

"I get to put my hand on a girls crotch all the time. Your QB shoves his hands into a fat guys ass. And you call me a fag?"

A physical violent threat is not quelled with a verbal insult back to the perpetrators.

 

[water]

I'm all for gay rights, but in this case it's no different than any minority whining about how they were unfairly singled out. If this were about some Eskimo family you honestly wouldn't give a shit.

 

[dbzeag]

I'm all for gay rights, but in this case it's no different than any minority whining about how they were unfairly singled out. If this were about some Eskimo family you honestly wouldn't give a shit.

Yes I would. It just doesn't happen publicly 5 times a month that eskimos are getting physically and verbally abused at schools.

Other ethnicities, however, yes.

This is why exchange programs work well, educating students at the level of a student about cultural diversity. More programs like that for other groups that incite trouble like fags could be initiated to similar effect.

And they are.

Please see GSA groups countrywide successfully giving understanding and visibility to a group of children that would normally be the brunt of bullying but instead are part of educating students and teachers alike that they are not punching bags.

 

[Coqui]

A physical violent threat is not quelled with a verbal insult back to the perpetrators.

Then you do the first post regarding this I mentioned. I was talking about the taunting.

 

[plot]

The kid with the broken arm should sue the parents of the football players. Problem solved.

 

[Mean Mr. Mustard]

So what Im getting from all this is, if I beat up a nice normal heterosexual white kid, I wont get in any trouble?

 

[plot]

only if he's middle class.

 

[Coqui]

So what Im getting from all this is, if I beat up a nice normal heterosexual white kid, I wont get in any trouble?

You will. The school administration will instantly give you 15 lashes in the auditorium in front of the entire school. Then you will be expelled and banished from all public and private schools. Of course only once they can prove the kid is normal, heterosexual, and white will all this happen. Otherwise, they will just ignore it.

 

[my little brony]

My prescription would be for the educators would be to suspend the kid offering threats just like a bomb threat prescribes a suspension with a stern warning that threats of violence are not tolerated and in some cases against the law, and then a phone call to the kid's parents.

Except that there's no proof the threat was ever made. All they have is the word of one kid versus another kid's. If they just assume the one complaining is telling the truth it opens to the door for other kids to abuse that system.