cat vs dog

Unfortunately yes. That is why if you are going to purchases a pure breed you need to research your breeder and their line before purchasing a puppy from them.

Line breeding (father to daughter/son to mother = different grandparents) is an acceptable form of breeding, but shouldn't be done more than 2 generations in a row else you run the same risk as inbreeding.

Inbreeding should never be done at all. ever. But because the public shows intrest in a certain quality that puppies out of Litter A has that Litter B doesn't .. some breeders will choose to breed 2 of the Litter A puppies together (brother to sister = inbreeding = same grandparents = bad) in hopes of reproducing that trait. That = a very ignorant breeder, and usually one that you will find in the newspaper (called backyard breeders. They don't do any research on their dogs, don't do health screenings before breeding, and generally just don't give a shit what they are producing and sending into the public .. all they care about is making some cash).

Inbred dogs can have extremely bad temperment problems, exagerated health issues, and also have a higher risk for having birth defects.

That being said .. not all dogs NEED to be bred, regardless of the breeding situation. If a dog has a temperment problem, health problems, genetic issues, ect .. it shouldn't be bred at all, ever .. because their is a 50% chance that the entire litter will inherate those same traits. And no amount of "training" will undo what genetics deals them.

It's true though .. it's not always the "owner" who is at fault. But if the owner knows that the dog is problamatic and does nothing about it .. then it is their fault by default for not rectifying/containing the issue.

Regardless .. the dog usually loses in the end.
 
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There needs to be laws on the owner losing out in the end. It is not fair to the canine.

In some states there are laws like that. If a dog is found guilty of a "crime" towards humanity and has to be destroyed the owner is usually taken to court over it. If the court can prove that they owner neglected the animal, ultimately leading to the nature of the dog .. the owner is sometimes ordered to jail time (depending on the severity of the case) and they have to pay restitution.

But not all states have those laws in place. AL happens to not be one of them :(.
 
All I was saying and continue to say is that in some occasions it has nothing to do with the way the dog was raised or the owner. Easiest way I can compare it is people and schizophrenia, sometimes we just wig the fuck out. It happens, cant blame the parents for that. By making a rule that owners should always be 100% responsible is crazy.
 
All I was saying and continue to say is that in some occasions it has nothing to do with the way the dog was raised or the owner. Easiest way I can compare it is people and schizophrenia, sometimes we just wig the fuck out. It happens, cant blame the parents for that. By making a rule that owners should always be 100% responsible is crazy.

You're talking about .1% of the issue. The rest of us are talking about the other 99.9% of it. :fly: :tard: :heart:
 
All I was saying and continue to say is that in some occasions it has nothing to do with the way the dog was raised or the owner. Easiest way I can compare it is people and schizophrenia, sometimes we just wig the fuck out. It happens, cant blame the parents for that. By making a rule that owners should always be 100% responsible is crazy.

Who should be responsible then?

You gonna take the dog to court and put him in doggy jail? :lol: Give him 10 to life without the possiblity of a walk after dinner?

The point is .. it doesn't really matter if it was raised "right" or "wrong" .. when you bring an animal home anything it does is your responsibility. For the rest of it's life, unless you give it away to someone else .. then it's their responsibility. It is up to the owner to make sure it doesn't harm anything outside of their property lines.

And even then if it hurts a kid (or another person really) .. the owner is still going to be responsible for owning a dangerous animal.

If a dog has "flipped out" to the point it is a problem. It's time to take it to the vet and send it to doggy heaven.
 
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In some states there are laws like that. If a dog is found guilty of a "crime" towards humanity and has to be destroyed the owner is usually taken to court over it. If the court can prove that they owner neglected the animal, ultimately leading to the nature of the dog .. the owner is sometimes ordered to jail time (depending on the severity of the case) and they have to pay restitution.

But not all states have those laws in place. AL happens to not be one of them :(.
Not all states have it as a criminal law but civilly vicarious liability + negligence = tort practically universally.

That is like, you have the responsibility for any party you exercise a right, duty, and um... something over. Like a parental child relationship, or dog and owner, employer and employee.
 
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on a lighter note .. this cat is silly as fuck :lol:

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He can get into some of the oddest poitions in that chair. lol

I found another hole in him earlier. It's under his armpit. I thought it was a mat(since he has such long fur and I havent' been able to really brush him this week) .. but when I started messing with it . it was a scab .. I clipped away the hair and removed the scab .. and there wasa HUGE hole :(. It looks much better now though, since it's gotten some air.

I dunno what I'm gonna do when he's better and I can't bring him to work anymore :(.
 
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I cannot sort out his legs in that pic.

Also, my posts in this thread keep getting deleted when I respond to you :p
 
I'm sure he does .. and I get angry when I think about it. BUt that doesn't make me want to make the other dog suffer. It's the owner's fault for letting it run around and reak havok. Unfortunately I can't do anything to the owner due to no leash law. I can't just be cruel to the dog though. I've tried my best to scare it away, but it comes back. After next week .. it won't anymore.

Plus I'd have to waste my money buying a bottle of antifreeze .. I buy the low tox kind .. so I can make sure if I spill any I don't kill anything.


the low tox kind costs more. you'd be saving money in the long run buying the kind that kills.
 
yeah, so I can overfill my car, or it leak .. and it kill my own animals or my neighbors cats who come over to visit. riiight

that stuff doesn't go bad you know... you can keep it on your shelf for ages. and when you finally do need it, use a funnel so you don't spill it everywhere.
 
And if my radiator hose leaks (which it did this winter)?

I'd just rather be the good pet owner and not chance it. I'd rather spend the extra $2 it cost me a gallon than have a dying/sick dog or cat that would cost me $500+ to try and fix. I have a dog that I have well over $5k in (expenses) .. I'm just not willing to risk it.

I cannot sort out his legs in that pic.

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This is were we definatly don't see eye to eye, I'd never spend 5 grand on a pet.

All they can do for antifreeze poisoning is possibly induce vomiting and give it lots of fluids in an attempt to flush it's system. For $500, they better give it a helluva lot of fluids.
 
This is were we definatly don't see eye to eye, I'd never spend 5 grand on a pet.

All they can do for antifreeze poisoning is possibly induce vomiting and give it lots of fluids in an attempt to flush it's system. For $500, they better give it a helluva lot of fluids.

It's just money.
 
This is were we definatly don't see eye to eye, I'd never spend 5 grand on a pet.

She's 5 yrs old .. things add up over time.

Price of parents, mother dog check-ups, vitamins, ears clipped, dail docked, dewclaws removed, shots/vaccinations, health tests (breed specific), annual health checkups (breed specific), flea preventative, heart worm preventative, vitamins, breed spcific foods as a puppy .. and god fobid anything go "wrong" during their lifetime.

And we won't even add in the toys and other things I buy for her to keep her entertained and well groomed.

Add it up .. if you take care of your pet the way you are supposed to .. by the end of their life .. you will have quite a fortune invested in them.

Pets are like kids .. if you decide to have one .. you shouldn't skrimp. Not their fault you picked them.
 
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It's just money.

It's just an animal. You'll get to know and love snowball 2 just as much as you knew and loved snowball 1.

What REALLY gets me is when people drop money into a 14 year old dog that has a 15 year life expectancy anyways. Or they get a BRAND NEW DOG and immediatly have to put money into him/her. Unless it's a young dog that you've had a few years, then it's not just money. It's just stupid.
 
She's 5 yrs old .. things add up over time.

Price of parents, mother dog check-ups, vitamins, ears clipped, dail docked, dewclaws removed, shots/vaccinations, health tests (breed specific), annual health checkups (breed specific), flea preventative, heart worm preventative, vitamins, breed spcific foods as a puppy .. and god fobid anything go "wrong" during their lifetime.

And we won't even add in the toys and other things I buy for her to keep her entertained and well groomed.

Add it up .. if you take care of your pet the way you are supposed to .. by the end of their life .. you will have quite a fortune invested in them.

Pets are like kids .. do decide to have one .. you shouldn't skrimp. Not their fault you picked them.

Maintenance is always justifiable, as with anything you have.

I thought you meant 5 grand on something specific that went wrong with the thing. :tard:
 
I'm glad you aren't my vet. It may just be "an animal" to you .. but they are family members to the people who own them.

Snowball 1 may look like snowball 2 to you .. but to the owner there is NEVER a replacement.

That'd be like telling a mother who's kid just died that .. she should suck it up and just have another one.

Pets are like children to most people who own them. And they'd do most anything to keep them with them .. just like we do with sick people.
 
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