Yes you did. Night before bast got married. Remember?taeric said:I feel somewhat sad that I never played SC 2. I loved the first one. I've also never played 3.
Yes you did. Night before bast got married. Remember?taeric said:I feel somewhat sad that I never played SC 2. I loved the first one. I've also never played 3.
theacoustician said:Yes you did. Night before bast got married. Remember?
Yes, although you may have been too trashed to remember. I remember sitting there and beating everybody by quickly smashing random buttons. I remember then announcing my strategy and getting eat shit looks from everyone who had "skillz".taeric said:You sure I played? I remember being very sick in those days.
And I guess I should expand it to say that I never played it significantly. I unlocked everything in the first. Never owned the others to unlock anything.
I think Virtua Fighter turned me off of 3d fighters for a while. It is neat, but too d*mned complicated.
theacoustician said:http://www.1up.com/do/feature?pager.offset=0&cId=3146281
That's a pretty good read. If nothing else, I'd like to sit down with J and play some games with him. I dunno if its real or a very well rehersed act, but he seems to be a real deal gamer where Kaz comes off more as a businessman who's just working his market.
elpmis said:3D fighting games are a fucking joke
If by tool you mean goofy mofo, I'd agree. He comes across (either real or scripted) as someone who actually likes to play video games though. I think he's the first exec I've gotten that vibe from. Read anything by Nintendo or Sony and you get the feeling that the people who they interview aren't exactly playing the games all that much. If they are, its a more mechanical exercise than its something they do for entertainment or fun. Actually, the impression I generally get from these companies aretaeric said:With J? That guy comes accross to me as a complete tool. Especially if you've ever seen pictures of when he decided to look all hardcore video game savvy.
Kaz... I've never really heard of.
theacoustician said:If by tool you mean goofy mofo, I'd agree. He comes across (either real or scripted) as someone who actually likes to play video games though. I think he's the first exec I've gotten that vibe from. Read anything by Nintendo or Sony and you get the feeling that the people who they interview aren't exactly playing the games all that much. If they are, its a more mechanical exercise than its something they do for entertainment or fun. Actually, the impression I generally get from these companies are
Sony : engineers and businessmen
Nintendo : artists, probably use Macs
Xbox crew (not the rest of MS) : programmers and gamers
That isn't really good or bad for any company, mind you. Just the perspective I hear in my head when I read things like this.
That's why I gave allowance for if its real or scripted. That's also why I want to sit down with him and play and find out if he's the real deal. Other companies don't even try to pretend that they play games.taeric said:Edit: To reiterate. I'd be surprised if J actually plays video games. He just wants to "relate" to the video game playing people he is trying to sell to so that they will buy more. It is almost definitely scripted.
theacoustician said:That's why I gave allowance for if its real or scripted. That's also why I want to sit down with him and play and find out if he's the real deal. Other companies don't even try to pretend that they play games.
If he isn't playing games, I want to know who's been logging into his Live account. Its got some serious hours on it and there's some interesting trash talk there as well.
Ryokurin said:http://files.filefront.com/MGS4_PS3_Devkit_Demo_Eng_subs/;4440530;;/fileinfo.html
I admit I didnt download the bigger version but this shows the engineers interacting with snake within the dev kit. Very nice.
I, myself, am holding out for the ps3. I'm going to remain loyal to sony, they've not wronged me yet and have proven to be might superior.
I wasn't impressed till they got to playing with the dude on the LCD. The render in the render is pretty damn cool. The rest of it I've seen people do here on existing video effects machines.taeric said:Ok, that video scares me. I am honestly impressed with how good that demo looks. I wonder if they have optimized the engine to extreme amounts already, or if things will only get better.
theacoustician said:I wasn't impressed till they got to playing with the dude on the LCD. The render in the render is pretty damn cool. The rest of it I've seen people do here on existing video effects machines.
Comparison : Gears of War demo. I like the need to use cover and the "roadie cam" effect. The blood spattering is stupid though. Still looks neat.
Don't know about the other machines and I have no idea what's in the PS3 dev kit that isn't going to be on the consumer PS3. Makes it a tough call.taeric said:I've seen stuff like that done before, too. Just not on anything near that detailed. Especially on hardware that is less than a couple of years old. This is supposed to have been done on alpha hardware. Not to mention how much did the machines we've seen this done on before cost?
theacoustician said:Don't know about the other machines and I have no idea what's in the PS3 dev kit that isn't going to be on the consumer PS3. Makes it a tough call.
True, but I'm giving a bit of an allowance since ittaeric said:Fair enough. Way too much unknown, but I'm still impressed by the video.
I watched some of the GoW video. Looks rather nice. I wasn't able to pay too much attention to the shadowing to know how well it is done. I can say that that would have given the wow factor the 360 is currently lacking.
theacoustician said:True, but I'm giving a bit of an allowance since it
1. was shot on a hand cam and the image was blown up to epic proportions
2. they said they only had the final dev kit for the 360 for two weeks when they built that demo
3. bonus points for it being real in-game play