WTF France attacked again

[plot]

So people who moved from war torn areas to France dozens of years ago are causing all these problems today because they haven't been given everything...

Brexit to control their borders is starting to make a lot more sense.

So when a nation takes in a bunch of refugees, what is that nations responsibility to those refugees? Provide a 100k year job and freedom to trample all over that countries current culture? Imo it's only to provide safety from genocide in their old country and an opportunity to integrate into their new society...

 

[Amstel]

Right? Muslim Immigrants looking for food and shelter are not immigrants because they want to stop their culture from stoning women for looking at other men in public.

They want a better food source and less threatening shelter. Nothing more.

 

[Ledboots]

So people who moved from war torn areas to France dozens of years ago are causing all these problems today because they haven't been given everything...

Brexit to control their borders is starting to make a lot more sense.

So when a nation takes in a bunch of refugees, what is that nations responsibility to those refugees? Provide a 100k year job and freedom to trample all over that countries current culture? Imo it's only to provide safety from genocide in their old country and an opportunity to integrate into their new society...

This

 

[my little brony]

yeah, because people are certainly demanding six figure jobs

 

[Hoff Kinkmeister]

History clearly demonstrates ethnocentric nationalism is not the solution to problems. Irish people in the USA were once perceived as Muslims are now, and clearly that was stupid.

This has all been done before, and the regressives always end up wrong. This is what learning from history means.

Under "X" conditions, "Y" is more likely to happen. If you don't understand it then it is impossible to solve any problem. Humans behave as humans have always behaved. Keeping a population unintegrated and in oppressive, subsidized conditions is not beneficial in any way.

Integration does not mean matching the "norm" as alloying does not mean transmuting all inputs into the the same material.

 

[nukes]

History clearly demonstrates ethnocentric nationalism is not the solution to problems. Irish people in the USA were once perceived as Muslims are now, and clearly that was stupid.

This has all been done before, and the regressives always end up wrong. This is what learning from history means.

Under "X" conditions, "Y" is more likely to happen. If you don't understand it then it is impossible to solve any problem. Humans behave as humans have always behaved. Keeping a population unintegrated and in oppressive, subsidized conditions is not beneficial in any way.

Integration does not mean matching the "norm" as alloying does not mean transmuting all inputs into the the same material.

I've never once read an account of an Irishman blowing up innocents wearing a dynamite vest.
Unless he was so drunk it was an accident.

 

[Amstel]

I've never once read an account of an Irishman blowing up innocents wearing a dynamite vest.
Unless he was so drunk it was an accident.

That's a scots trick.
http://dangerousminds.net/comments/dennis_hopper_drunk_stoned_six_sticks_of_dynamite

 

[Valve1138]

Anyone notice that anytime someone is killed the first thing out of the reporters mouth is some bullshit about whether or not it was an act of terror? You ever wonder why that is?

No I don't wonder why, because I have a brain and know that shit sells when they say it.

 

[my little brony]

I've never once read an account of an Irishman blowing up innocents wearing a dynamite vest.
Unless he was so drunk it was an accident.

then you got some reading to do

http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/troubles

besides, he was talking about a time when the irish were oppressed in america which was long before the advent of suicide vets so it's like pointing out that black people weren't committing cyber crimes during segregation

 

[Domon]

I've never once read an account of an Irishman blowing up innocents wearing a dynamite vest.
Unless he was so drunk it was an accident.

as half an irishman, a good share of have a penchant for car bombs and blowing up british troops.....

 

[Ledboots]

I've never once read an account of an Irishman blowing up innocents wearing a dynamite vest.
Unless he was so drunk it was an accident.

Ummmm the IRA thingie

 

[Floptical]

as half an irishman, a good share of have a penchant for car bombs and blowing up british troops.....

Top half or bottom half? Or is it your left half?

 

[Valve1138]

A country that takes in refugees has a responsibility to not be bigoted racists assholes about it.

 

[Ledboots]

A country that takes in refugees has a responsibility to not be bigoted racists assholes about it.

Yes, and the refugees have responsibilities, too. Work hard, learn the language, let your children learn the ways of your new land.

 

[Mr. Argumentor]

I've never once read an account of an Irishman blowing up innocents wearing a dynamite vest.
Unless he was so drunk it was an accident.

Jesus fucking Christ...
Irish Republican Army, go google.

Know why the drink is called an Irish Carbomb?

 

[Valve1138]

Yes, and the refugees have responsibilities, too. Work hard, learn the language, let your children learn the ways of your new land.

And if you don't, off to the ghetto!

 

[Hoff Kinkmeister]

History is a trap for dumbshit ideologies and beliefs. This is why "education" is treated as a slur.

Protip: "common sense" is admitted thoughtlessness.

 

[my little brony]

Yes, and the refugees have responsibilities, too. Work hard, learn the language, let your children learn the ways of your new land.

which isn't all going to happen in a matter of months or even a couple of years

for starters it's difficult for adults to learn new languages, especially languages that have no connection to their native one4

secondly it's not like refugees can just waltz into a job. if there are no jobs for them to have then what are they supposed to work hard at? if they're put into a camp that's miles from any business what kind of jobs are they supposed to get without some kind of public transport to get them to an area with work?

they have some responsibilities but our expectations have to be more reasonable than "here's a tent and a can of beans, now learn the language and make something of yourself!"

 

[Hoff Kinkmeister]

as half an irishman, a good share of have a penchant for car bombs and blowing up british troops.....

As someone with the genes to make a ginger kid, car bombs are fucking delicious.

 

[Mr. Argumentor]

Yes, and the refugees have responsibilities, too. Work hard, learn the language, let your children learn the ways of your new land.

Be immigrant/refugee
Be unable to work because you don't yet know the language.
Try to learn language, find out you can't afford any schools because you are poor
Find out state sponsored school is in next town
Find out your town has no cheap mass transit out of town into town that has school.
Try to pay for transit, end up poorer
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Once loop has reached threshold of individual, initiate BurnItDown.exe

/France


That's the situation for a lot of people in France right now.