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Thread Article: Why Medical Bills Are Killing Us

Discussion in 'useless chatter' started by Sarcasmo, Feb 21, 2013.

  1. I think you hit the nail on the head here, middle class families value education. Our lower class subculture typically doesn't, going so far as to make fun of kids who DO try to learn. This isn't something you fix with entitlements...
     
  2. Because we all know anytime anyone says anything to a black person it's oppressive to them. But making those same comments to a white person, OH, that's free speech. boo fucking hoo.
     
  3. OMG there's trolls on the internet?!?!?!?!?!?!?! WHAT?!?!?!

    They were oppressed way past slavery, up until the 1960s. Probably sucked to be black in the 70's and to a lesser extent the 80's, the 90s were a lot better, it's a non issue for anyone under 30, and barely an issue for anyone under 40.
     
  4. I wish I had a slave.
     
  5. #185 Dory, Feb 22, 2013
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    I'm not sold on the idea that taking away 'entitlements' is productive either in many cases. Many of these people are not like this through lack of trying, many people try hard as hell to get their kids a decent education and the system grinds them down. There was a doc on netflix recently (Waiting for Superman) following people in poor districts of NYC trying their best to get their kids into a decent school where they wouldn't be 'left behind'. It's quite heartbreaking in many respects.

    There's an attitude both in the US and the UK that people WANT to live like this, that people honestly believe they don't want to better themselves and don't want what is best for their kids, but this isn't the majority like people pretend, most people do want better and they try and try and things don't always work out. It's a mixture of people who do care, people who don't care, and many people who are so broken down by the system and worn out that they're apathetic and give up which you can't blame them for, everyone has different ways of dealing and not everyone is able to cope with immense pressures and rejection.

    Everytime there is a recession this idea of the 'undeserved' and 'deserving' poor is on the front of all media sources and for a simple reasona - they dont' want people looking up, they want them looking down and blaming those who are poorer instead of those who are richer. While you're busy moaning about those good for nothings who economically are quite insubstantial, you're not paying attention to the blind robbery that goes on among the super rich.
     
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  7. Proving there are trolls on the internet.
     
  8. ive been poor and super privileged. ive been on both sides of the fence. being rich pwns by the way..
    now I'm not riiich and im certainly not poor... im just meh and im ok with that.
     
  9. The people who might have issues are black people who may have caught the tale end of the 70s.
     
  10. Hey, look at those people drowning! I'm sure they'll figure out howw to swim before it's too late.
     
  11. Why can't it be the case for everyone? Why can't hard work and struggle better everyone?
     
  12. Really?

    Because not everyone is the same. :confused:

    I know people who can deal with immense pressure and struggle, and those who can't. I don't think one is better than the other, they're just different. I know people who have immeasurably horrible lives who have overcome it and go on to be great, and I know people in similar situations who have fallen through the cracks. Not everyone makes the same choices, nor are they capable of. Not everyone can overcome every challenge in life or 'get over it'. Life isn't that simple.
     
  13. Plot: Telling black people how they feel since 1971.
     
  14. You've never seen a white person call a black guy "nigger" before, have you? It's a horrible thing, it's horrible seeing what it does to the black guy, it's horrible seeing the hate in the white guy's eyes.

    You're deluded if you think oppression went out in the 70s.
     
  15. And instead lets make them dependent on handouts so they never have to learn to swim?

    I'm not against welfare, food stamps, or other safety nets, but that whole system is just as fucked as our healthcare. You guys are basically saying we should support these people indefinitely because they had shitty upbringings.
     
  16. So your argument is an individual one more than a racial one. That's my question. Some people have intellectual or emotional barriers, but those aren't race specific.
     
  17. It really should read 'were were they were'. Now that would be a problem to translate.
     
  18. Which post said this?
     
  19. No but it's been on a downhill slide ever since then. Face it, it's just not an issue with the younger generations.
     
  20. Why are you telling me adults can't read so it's not their fault they're on welfare then?