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Discussion in 'useless chatter' started by Sarcasmo, Feb 21, 2013.
And Ghost wonders why I just laughed at your post instead of actually debating it.
Where did you find the horse you are riding on? It's quite exquisite.
You've seen everyone you've met read and write then? Because I've known people for a long time before I realised something was up with their writing or reading skills, they spend time hiding it. You've probably met quite a few illiterate people.
You're just against people posting in their native language. That's so racist. Everyone has to conform to you or you think they're underprivileged. sheesh.
Btw none of the people I know who are illiterate have told me, they don't know that I'm aware they're illiterate. Their family or best friends have told me just so I adjust how I communicate with them so it's less stressful for them. Nobody wants to admit something so embarassing.
some people have learning disabilities.
my buddy is an artist.. huge in new york/miami/toronto and tokyo and he cant read/write worth shit.
hes not simple or blind, he just cant read/write.
he's also richer than most of you twats here.
Are we talking about blacks in particular, or minorities? I guess I'll focus on blacks as the spokesmen for minority struggle.
Blacks in America were born in a first world country
Being black is no where near as hard as it once was. Most young people outside of Alabama are blind to color now. Most of my friends are black, hispanic, or dot Indian. This isn't the 1950s. Much of the country is now some shade of brown.
Black males are male
Countless poor blacks have loving and supportive families
Countless poor blacks have roofs, water, and all have free education.
Finger painter? Kidding...
Poverty in the US by race in 2007:
Among married couple families: 5.8% lived in poverty. This number varied by race and ethnicity as follows:
5.4% of all white persons (which includes white Hispanics),
9.7% of all black persons (which includes black Hispanics), and
14.9% of all Hispanic persons (of any race) living in poverty.
Among single parent (male or female) families: 26.6% lived in poverty. This number varied by race and ethnicity as follows"
22.5% of all white persons (which includes white Hispanics),
44.0% of all black persons (which includes black Hispanics), and
33.4% of all Hispanic persons (of any race) living in poverty.
Among unrelated individuals living alone: 19.1% lived in poverty. This number varied by race and ethnicity as follows:
18% of white persons (which includes white Hispanics)
27.9% of black persons (which includes black Hispanics) and
27% of Hispanic persons (of any race) living in poverty
The US Census declared that in 2010 15.1% of the general population lived in poverty:
9.9% of all non-Hispanic white persons
12.1% of all Asian persons
26.6% of all Hispanic persons (of any race)
27.4% of all black persons.
About half of those living in poverty are non-Hispanic white (19.6 million in 2010), but poverty rates are much higher for blacks and Hispanics. Non-Hispanic white children comprised 57% of all poor rural children.
In FY 2009, black families comprised 33.3% of TANF families, non-Hispanic white families comprised 31.2%, and 28.8% were Hispanic.
Blah blah blah.
Your anecdotal evidence of friends proves nothing. Your friendships are with people who are similar to you, have similar interests and similar vaules and economic status. You're not about to go down to a project and go make buddies with the guys there, are you?
What counts as "functionally illiterate"? I don't consider reading to be "privileged", because I sat in the same classes as those 20% of high school graduates and 1 million high school drop outs to learn to read. And I could read well before high school. This is a whole separate issue from welfare/healthcare/etc., the government is providing the resources to teach them to read, it's working on ~80% of the population. How do these stats compare to other first world countries? How did 20% fall through the cracks so easily?
Give her a second to google her response. She stayed at a holiday inn express last night
I'm going to go out on a limb and guess your parents could read and value education? You probably also had books in your house?
1 in 3 children in the UK have no books in their house. Their parents do not instill the value of education and so it is wasted. Do you blame the kids for this? Do they have much of a choice in every case? Not really.
Many of my friends are English teachers. They educate 11-16yr olds and do not take it for granted that kids can read or write at any kind of decent or literate level anymore. In short, you are privileged your parents valued reading and had books accesable for you. You're more privilged in that area than 3 out every 10 kids in the UK.
Your contribution to the adult talk is very valued.
What does any of this have to do with your original argument, that people cannot better themselves? No one is saying that there are no poor people in America. We are saying that regardless how poor you are, giving up and waiting for others to do your work for you is what creates the cycle of poverty.
Minorities are not as underprivileged as you would think. Yes, it will be hard for you as a Mexican if you can't speak English, or speak limited English, and your career opportunities (and resultant poverty stats) will reflect that. But probably not so for your children.
Once again, it's curious that you ignore the millions of examples of people (of all races) who have struggled and succeeded in America.
Now show me the 1967, and 87. Blacks were once oppressed in our country, and a lot of them have come a long ways since then. Some still have a long ways to go. Can't fix it all overnight... and entitlements only creates dependency.
We were arguing privilege. If you are statistically twice as likely to be born into poverty based on being a certain race, then you don't have that privilege. I don't deny people have struggled and succeeded, what I have disagreed with ITT is people pretending that this can be the case for everybody if they try hard enough. Because it's not true.
Which is why when you go on US sites and there's a photo of a black person the same comments and slurs come up time and time again. But hey, oppression only means slavery, right?