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Khareesi said:
The driving force behind why this is an issue is because of religion, don't try and feign ignorance about it.
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It's not religious for me. quit dragging things into an arguement that aren't in it.

On one side the left wants total separation of church and state. But as soon as they disagree with something they try adn attach it to racial, religious, and class warfare arguements because their position is so weak.
 
Amstel said:
How's that sex ed working for you?At least admit that your child-efforts in high school, and every other effort that your tax dollars are going to have failed miserably, continue to fail miserably, and that, at least you and a few other posters here, want to continue to throw good money, effort and time after bad.

It's not working, or do you not read your own posts?

Could? cuz by your own statements and efforts it's failing miserably. Find a petri dish for your experiments outside of the public school system until you find something that works. It seems that EVERYTHING done now is backfiring and you're educating kids who really don't give a shit about condoms and consequenses how to have sex. Don't break your arm patting yourself on the back.



fyi: the kids can't tell who's right or wrong on this.



take a moment of clarity, if you're able, and read what you believe the current efforts, research, shitty 'peer counseling', and money have helped:
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If you need your child to participate, find somewhere outside the public school system and "opt in" to help what you believe you lack in parenting ability.

ONce again, your liberal view of a few parents won't so let's mandate it for all the kids. FAILED POLICY by your own admission.


You used them as well as yourself as examples why you want it taught in the public school system. If there was any disrespect, it was you who disrespected them as well as yourself. I think it's great that you want someone else teaching your child about sex. I don't need to opt out of your child's need. Find your own program outside of the public school system. Honestly, it wouldn't bother me if our tax dollars went to some program like that because it's just helping out another special needs group instead of dragging the entire school into it.

Find somewhere else to educate your kid that doesn't involve mine. The school programs out there now are failing miserably and I don't want to be part of your grand continued failed experiment.
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Dude, you really are some kind of a monster. Where I live they don't teach contraception in school anymore and that is what I attribute much of the problem to. I recognize there is a cultural problem as well. I don't live in Bumfuck, ME or whatever the hell town you posted about. But whatever, here and in a lot of places, they aren't allowed to teach contraception anymore. Abstinence only education is what I'm arguing against and when I used my mom and grandmother, it was to display why they felt like it was okay for me to get that education in school. Anyway, what if I hate that my tax money goes to organized sports or music classes or psychology classes? They are called electives for a reason. Nobody is always going to agree with everything that is taught in public school. If you don't like it, send your child to private school and leave the rest of us alone.
 
eileenbunny said:
If you don't like it, send your child to private school and leave the rest of us alone.
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this statement is ironic since you are the one who is trying to impose your will on the public schools.

If you don't like it NOT being taught in public schools, then teach it to your kid at home as Amstel is advocating.
 
Are you people seriously arguing about restricting what a student learns by leaving that information out of a classroom? I would encourage ALL train of thought and ALL types of data in the classroom. Better information all around = being better informed to make your own decisions. Isn't the whole point of school to prepare students to exceed in life when they graduate, learning the tools and fundamental facts upon which to grow? Wouldn't it behoove the students to have as many facts as possible, about how to use abstinence in their life as well as how contraception works and the information about both to back it up? Reducing or restricting what is taught in schools doesn't help anyone.
 
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eileenbunny said:
Dude, you really are some kind of a monster. Where I live they don't teach contraception in school anymore and that is what I attribute much of the problem to. I recognize there is a cultural problem as well. I don't live in Bumfuck, ME or whatever the hell town you posted about. But whatever, here and in a lot of places, they aren't allowed to teach contraception anymore. Abstinence only education is what I'm arguing against and when I used my mom and grandmother, it was to display why they felt like it was okay for me to get that education in school. Anyway, what if I hate that my tax money goes to organized sports or music classes or psychology classes? They are called electives for a reason. Nobody is always going to agree with everything that is taught in public school. If you don't like it, send your child to private school and leave the rest of us alone.
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Last time I checked not having sex is actually a great form of contraception. 100% effective actually. No negative side effects!

Let's make it simple, the only thing that should be taught in school is: Math, English (literature and Composition), Latin, Greek, Chemistry, Physics, Civics. With a sports program to round it out. Everything else is the responsibility of the parents. Would also cut costs...

(I dont even know what anyone is arguing about)
 
dbzeag said:
Are you people seriously arguing about restricting what a student learns by leaving that information out of a classroom? I would encourage ALL train of thought and ALL types of data in the classroom. Better information all around = being better informed to make your own decisions. Isn't the whole point of school to prepare students to exceed in life when they graduate, learning the tools and fundamental facts upon which to grow? Wouldn't it behoove the students to have as many facts as possible, about how to use abstinence in their life as well as how contraception works and the information about both to back it up? Reducing or restricting what is taught in schools doesn't help anyone.
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No one learns anything in school except how to stand in line and using social leverage to produce outcomes the benefit number one.
 
dbzeag said:
I didnt know school was like picking up a welfare check.
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It's government funded and supports a vast bureaucracy of superfluous administrative personnel...

Also there is no such thing as welfare. Do you mean TANF?
 
plot said:
this statement is ironic since you are the one who is trying to impose your will on the public schools.

If you don't like it NOT being taught in public schools, then teach it to your kid at home as Amstel is advocating.
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And I see it differently. I think by making laws saying it can't be taught in public schools is someone imposing their will upon the public. Last I checked, schools were there for educating children. So why are we trying to restrict what they are learning?
 
ZRH said:
Last time I checked not having sex is actually a great form of contraception. 100% effective actually. No negative side effects!

Let's make it simple, the only thing that should be taught in school is: Math, English (literature and Composition), Latin, Greek, Chemistry, Physics, Civics. With a sports program to round it out. Everything else is the responsibility of the parents. Would also cut costs...

(I dont even know what anyone is arguing about)
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That's an interesting opinion
 
eileenbunny said:
That's an interesting opinion
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Public schools (ideally) should teach knowledge/fact without opinion or bias.

You wanting your point of view imposed on other people's kids is just as wrong as them wanting to impose their beliefs on yours, not sure why this concept escapes most people. Morals and "values" are things that should be taught in the home or in private institutions.
 
GH0ST said:
Public schools (ideally) should teach knowledge/fact without opinion or bias.

You wanting your point of view imposed on other people's kids is just as wrong as them wanting to impose their beliefs on yours, not sure why this concept escapes most people. Morals and "values" are things that should be taught in the home or in private institutions.
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Actually that backs up eileens point completely. Contraception and sexual educaiton is based on facts, not a point of view or a belief and therefore belongs in schools. Morals and values about sex should be taught in home, schools are not trying to preach morals, but to give factual information.
 
GH0ST said:
Public schools (ideally) should teach knowledge/fact without opinion or bias.

You wanting your point of view imposed on other people's kids is just as wrong as them wanting to impose their beliefs on yours, not sure why this concept escapes most people. Morals and "values" are things that should be taught in the home or in private institutions.
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Birth control is a fact. It exists. Pretending it doesn't doesn't change anything, and withholding information or spreading disinformation on the topic is irresponsible.
 
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