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knyte said "post this link and tell those idiots to give it a rest"
http://gunfacts.info/pdfs/gun-facts/4.2/GunFacts4-2-Screen.pdf
I wonder how much the accidental shooting rate would go down if we could just teach thugs not to try to shoot their guns turned to the side.
Link? I would be interested in seeing that(not that i dont believe you)
You are comparing something thats primary design is to kill and cannot be used for anything else to things that "could possibly kill you if used incorrectly". I really dont see how that argument can even be used
"If we ban guns we should ban toaster ovens cause you can hit someone with one and kill them"
To me that is not something you can debate, makes little sense to even consider that argument. A gun is made for the sole purpose of killing, period. It does not double as a butter spreader or a less than lethal source of protection, it is 1 thing, lethal.
Personally I feel that we should have full background checks on anyone going to purchase a hand gun and a longer waiting period. 3 days, if that, for a gun is horribly to soon. Shit here in Florida you can go to any Gun Show and pick up a piece while you wait for your elephant ear to finish frying. I know that is not completely truthful/legal but it is seriously that easy to get a gun. All I am really saying is EDUCATE/TEST/BACKGROUND and not just a weekend wait. I completely understand you want your freedom to shoot but safety should come first especially when dealing with a item made specifically for killing.
from knytes link said:Fact: In 1976, Washington,
D.C. enacted one of the most
restrictive gun control laws in
the nation. The city's murder
rate rose 134 percent through
1996 while the national
murder rate has dropped 2
percent.
(Dr. Gary Kleck, University of Florida using FBI Uniform Crime Statistics, 1997 )
Fact: “We don't have
as many guns [in
Brazil] as the United
States, but we use
them more.”
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Brazil
has mandatory
licensing, registration,
and maximum
personal ownership
quotas. It now bans
any new sales to
private citizens. Their
homicide rate is
almost three (3) times
higher than the U.S.
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Fact: Many of the countries with the strictest gun control have the highest rates of violent crime.
Australia and England, which have virtually banned gun ownership, have the highest rates of
robbery, sexual assault, and assault with force of the top 17 industrialized countries.
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^Isn't it funny how opposite that is. You would think more gun control would equal a safer society, but that is not at all true.
Hardcore criminals aren't hitting up a gun shop for weapons. With strong gun control you just limit the people that agree to follow the law. And then the criminals aren't afraid of an law abiding individual having a weapon to protect themselves.
yup. when the people arn't armed, you have nothing to fear.
as it stands now it's always in the back of their head "which one of these crazy bastards has a gun... cause i'm gonna rob the neighbor instead... oh look, a hillary sign in the front yard, thats the easy target"
...although mccain is a gun grabber too
and has anyone else ever had a SO tell them "don't flip that guy off for cutting you off in traffic, WTF ARE YOU DOING? HE MIGHT HAVE A GUN!"
Or in Fly's case, the chick had a cup of coffee.
Threw it at his car in rage.
I was referring to countries, but was too lazy to do my own homework...
edit: woohoo KNYTE's link actually had stats from Brazil, which is the country I was thinking of
And another one just for fun...
What did you do last night BeerAd?
pretty crazy... to hungover to type anything more than 1 liners, prolly a good thing
And what do you think today?
Your logic is flawed. While training isn't necessarily a bad thing, you can't force stupid out of people.