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If you knew this person, you'd judge them too.
Yes but unless you've killed all natural impulses that there is something, just a tiny feeling, that raising a set of entirely foreign genetics is disconcerting.
 
As someone who doesn't want to have kids, why is it any more selfish?

Seriously I get the reasoning. Some people don't want to adopt because they aren't sure they have it in them to be with a child who isn't biologically their own. Ran into that talking with infertility groups. Personally I think it is wise to admit it before getting into a situation where a child will suffer.

So those who married and already had children by another person should just be happy they didn't meet someone like that, get married and then have the whole household get fucked over for their inadequacies. It's not a popular opinion for sure, but it isn't one people should get pissed off over if they aren't dealing with it personally.

thank you. someone else who gets what i'm trying to say.
 
the difference is the heart plays a role. he could've fallen in love for her despite it....not because of that.

The kid is part of her. You would probably know about it long before you fell in love. Therefore if you continue to choose a relationship after knowing someone has a kid, you're signing up for the possibility
 
Depends on your viewpoint. I may be selfish for not wanting kids or I may be selfless for recognizing this and not putting an innocent life in my irresponsible hands.

A person doesn't want to adopt because they aren't sure they have it in them to raise a child that is not biologically theirs? That is either a cop-out or just ignorance. How can a person say they would not love a child they are responsible for? Are people really that cruel?

there is an inherint attachment that can't be faked to a child that isn't your own flesh and blood. they are stil lyour son/daughter....but they are not a part of you. it's not the same.
 
The kid is part of her. You would probably know about it long before you fell in love. Therefore if you continue to choose a relationship after knowing someone has a kid, you're signing up for the possibility
you can't tell your heart not to love someone........ a few dates in and he could've already been sold that she was for him (regardless of her past children). i don't know personally.... i just know that i couldn't imagine raising a child that is not mine.
 
Depends on your viewpoint. I may be selfish for not wanting kids or I may be selfless for recognizing this and not putting an innocent life in my irresponsible hands.

A person doesn't want to adopt because they aren't sure they have it in them to raise a child that is not biologically theirs? That is either a cop-out or just ignorance. How can a person say they would not love a child they are responsible for? Are people really that cruel?

I like you April, but your logic is severely flawed in this IMO. There is absolutely no difference in your situation or someone not wanting to adopt.

It's just as selfless to realize you are not capable of taking care of a child who isn't biologically yours, as it is in your case. IMO it is just as brave to say you cannot raise a child who isn't biologically yours as it is to admit you do not/cannot raise any child.

Either both situations are cop outs, or both are brave to admit you are not going to just have a child to be a part of the "norm"

I desperately want another child. I really do - but the fact is I have one and only one for quite a few reasons. Adoption is not easy - same with fertility treatments or surrogacy. In my case to have another child would require either surrogacy or adoption. So far we're not doing either, so I wouldn't be so quick to judge anyone for their reasons.

Again it's brave to admit you don't have it in you to do something like that. Better than to let a child suffer later.
 
Some people want kids, some people don't. Some people don't mind being in a relationship with someone who already has kids and some obviously do. It's wrong to rip on someone who has made the decision that they are not capable or willing to be a parent and therefore do not want kids just as it was wrong to insult @123 or to imply somehow he got the raw end of a deal because he chose to marry someone with children from a previous relationship.
 
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Some people want kids, some people don't. Some people don't mind being in a relationship with someone who already has kids and some obviously do. It's wrong to rip on someone who has made the decision that they are not capable or willing to be a parent and therefore do not want kids just as it was wrong to insult @123 or to imply somehow he got the raw end of a deal because he chose to marry someone with children from a previous relationship.

Well said!
 
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I guess I understand sort of... but I'll admit, I let my emotions about this person and their selfish ways (more than just their viewpoint on adoption) cloud my judgement.

It's like the animal shelters, I get all bent out of shape when people don't adopt and rather purchase from a breeder. It breaks my heart that there are animals left in cages dying or in the human sense, kids growing up in abusive foster homes until they age out. Its sad either way and wish we did more of our part to help these kids, that's what community is about right?

If I were to ever want kids (like my mom says I will once I hit 30... welp, I hit it a year ago), I'd be all for adopting. That's just my opinion on how my life should be-- while there are still animals in cages and kids in foster care, I'd rather help them first. :hs:
 
Some people want kids, some people don't. Some people don't mind being in a relationship with someone who already has kids and some obviously do. It's wrong to rip on someone who has made the decision that they are not capable or willing to be a parent and therefore do not want kids just as it was wrong to insult @123 or to imply somehow he got the raw end of a deal because he chose to marry someone with children from a previous relationship.

who did either of these????
 
I guess I understand sort of... but I'll admit, I let my emotions about this person and their selfish ways (more than just their viewpoint on adoption) cloud my judgement.

It's like the animal shelters, I get all bent out of shape when people don't adopt and rather purchase from a breeder. It breaks my heart that there are animals left in cages dying or in the human sense, kids growing up in abusive foster homes until they age out. Its sad either way and wish we did more of our part to help these kids, that's what community is about right?

If I were to ever want kids (like my mom says I will once I hit 30... welp, I hit it a year ago), I'd be all for adopting. That's just my opinion on how my life should be-- while there are still animals in cages and kids in foster care, I'd rather help them first. :hs:
Yes but you cannot force others to make the same choices as you, this is why we are all individual.