Well, any of them give you a call back? Yer gonna have to wear a hair bonnet.The $15/hr minimum wage thing is happening here by default. People got locked out of restaurant work long enough they don't wanna go back and do that shit for that kinda money anymore. Can't blame them either.
Not just sit down restaurants but places like Wendys, Chick fillet, panda express, etc. are offering 13-15 buck an hour to start.
Absolutely - you feel the same way about older people. [/youngassholeisassholeagain]Those chillen should stay in their place and not have opinions! [/oldmanyellsatcloud]
I got into a discussion about this topic-ish recently with someone in the local Facebook group, but it didn't go as poorly as the last time at leastThe $15/hr minimum wage thing is happening here by default. People got locked out of restaurant work long enough they don't wanna go back and do that shit for that kinda money anymore. Can't blame them either.
Not just sit down restaurants but places like Wendys, Chick fillet, panda express, etc. are offering 13-15 buck an hour to start.
Well done, comrade.I got into a discussion about this topic-ish recently with someone in the local Facebook group, but it didn't go as poorly as the last time at least
the original post was a local business help wanted ad and the advertised starting pay was something like $15, and this woman was complaining about lazy kids today wanting too much money for these jobs and bemoaning that old people and disabled people had to go work these jobs bc the kids wouldn't, and once I pointed out that none of those people are taking jobs to help out the poor companies, it's because they NEED to work because they need money, too, and that IS a bummer (and there's all sorts of ridiculous hoops involving disability/SSI and not being allowed to work more than x hours, earn more than $y, or ever have more than $z total dollars to your name or you no longer qualify), she shifted to her problem being that she just retired and after 20 years, the new folks were making what it took her 20 years to make, so I reminder her about inflation, so like if she was making $20/hr in 2000, she'd need to be making something like $32/hr in 2021 or she was effectively earning less, and that if her wages had not kept up with inflation, the faut for that lies with her former employers, not with her fellow workers, and she was like "woah, I honestly never even considered it like that, I think I actually agree with you there"
I got into a discussion about this topic-ish recently with someone in the local Facebook group, but it didn't go as poorly as the last time at least
the original post was a local business help wanted ad and the advertised starting pay was something like $15, and this woman was complaining about lazy kids today wanting too much money for these jobs and bemoaning that old people and disabled people had to go work these jobs bc the kids wouldn't, and once I pointed out that none of those people are taking jobs to help out the poor companies, it's because they NEED to work because they need money, too, and that IS a bummer (and there's all sorts of ridiculous hoops involving disability/SSI and not being allowed to work more than x hours, earn more than $y, or ever have more than $z total dollars to your name or you no longer qualify), she shifted to her problem being that she just retired and after 20 years, the new folks were making what it took her 20 years to make, so I reminder her about inflation, so like if she was making $20/hr in 2000, she'd need to be making something like $32/hr in 2021 or she was effectively earning less, and that if her wages had not kept up with inflation, the faut for that lies with her former employers, not with her fellow workers, and she was like "woah, I honestly never even considered it like that, I think I actually agree with you there"
The Manchin stuff is kinda meh. Schumer already said they will be voting on the bill when they are back in session in January and Manchin will have to go on the record with his no vote. That's great and all but the people of West Virginia won't care. It's a state Trump won by 30 %. Most of them are probably happy he's against it. It won't make a bit of difference.The Democrats Are Trying to Lose
Democrats are going beyond refusing to give Americans an affirmative reason to vote for them: in sabotaging their own purported agenda around Biden’s Build Back Better bill, they seem to be trying to lose to the authoritarians in the GOP they claim to oppose.jacobinmag.com
I guess I'm just disappointed that, after 4 years of non-governance by the GOP, that the Dems can't do a single thing (with or without Manchin).The Manchin stuff is kinda meh. Schumer already said they will be voting on the bill when they are back in session in January and Manchin will have to go on the record with his no vote. That's great and all but the people of West Virginia won't care. It's a state Trump won by 30 %. Most of them are probably happy he's against it. It won't make a bit of difference.
As far as legislation goes this has reminded me of the first two years of the Trump administration. One party in total control and accomplishing very little to nothing. They better get their shit together after the New Year.I guess I'm just disappointed that, after 4 years of non-governance by the GOP, that the Dems can't do a single thing (with or without Manchin).
Stick to self-employment and you don't have to worry about such frivolities. I even got to write my own covid policy!Well, any of them give you a call back? Yer gonna have to wear a hair bonnet.
Agree with all of this. I think another consideration(on new people making what she made) is that many people plateau at their job after a few years and some new people already have the skills the retiree needed a few years to acquire. And not all employees become increasingly valuable with time, the job (say, burger-flipping) doesn't merit it. You were a Star Flipper by the end of your first shift.I got into a discussion about this topic-ish recently with someone in the local Facebook group, but it didn't go as poorly as the last time at least
the original post was a local business help wanted ad and the advertised starting pay was something like $15, and this woman was complaining about lazy kids today wanting too much money for these jobs and bemoaning that old people and disabled people had to go work these jobs bc the kids wouldn't, and once I pointed out that none of those people are taking jobs to help out the poor companies, it's because they NEED to work because they need money, too, and that IS a bummer (and there's all sorts of ridiculous hoops involving disability/SSI and not being allowed to work more than x hours, earn more than $y, or ever have more than $z total dollars to your name or you no longer qualify), she shifted to her problem being that she just retired and after 20 years, the new folks were making what it took her 20 years to make, so I reminder her about inflation, so like if she was making $20/hr in 2000, she'd need to be making something like $32/hr in 2021 or she was effectively earning less, and that if her wages had not kept up with inflation, the faut for that lies with her former employers, not with her fellow workers, and she was like "woah, I honestly never even considered it like that, I think I actually agree with you there"
we all are. Its just so much easier to impede progress than it is to achieve it. While manchin is an asshole.... remember, theres half of both the house and the senate that just votes no on EVERYTHING. This is still the fuckin' republicans fault.I guess I'm just disappointed that, after 4 years of non-governance by the GOP, that the Dems can't do a single thing (with or without Manchin).
Agree with all of this. I think another consideration(on new people making what she made) is that many people plateau at their job after a few years and some new people already have the skills the retiree needed a few years to acquire. And not all employees become increasingly valuable with time, the job (say, burger-flipping) doesn't merit it. You were a Star Flipper by the end of your first shift.
Theoretically once we move past scarcity, social safety nets like UBI will take over, whether the rugged individualist house cat lolbertarians want them to or not.This is something I don't hear talked about much. The job has to have an "up" to move to to keep advancing and earning more. The whole staff of regular workers can't all move into management.
Who would they manage?
Eventually it'll be robots.
All robots.