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shawndavid
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I signed up for the Atheist Society at school, but never went to any meetings; I still get their emails. I sort of figured going was ridiculous since I don't attend meetings to communicate with others my lack of faith in Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny.
faith and logic are mutually exclusive. To scientists, the finding means nothing because they know the truth. To religious people, the finding means nothing because they know the truth.
btw, could that article be wriiten any worse?
btw, could that article be wriiten any worse?
I don't understand some Christians issues with evolution. There have been several leaps and changes in various animals and human evolution that have occurred super super fast in the grand scheme of things and they can use that as proof of a higher power but instead they would rather say screw the facts my invisible friend is better than yours.
there's going to be a special on this thing on discovery or history channel...can't remember which
Try throwing the genetic diversity argument at a creationist, and watch them fumble away at some answer that doesn't explain a damn thing.
'If God destroyed all life on earth save those on the ark, how did we get races? Did Noah have black, latino, and chinese babies?'
'How did noah save buffaloe if they only lived in North America. In fact, how did animals get to the America's after the flood?'
'So, if Adam and Eve were the first man and woman, does that mean we are all the products of incest? Wait, where in the bible did it mention eve had a daughter?'
'If God destroyed all life on earth save those on the ark, how did we get races? Did Noah have black, latino, and chinese babies?'
'How did noah save buffaloe if they only lived in North America. In fact, how did animals get to the America's after the flood?'
'So, if Adam and Eve were the first man and woman, does that mean we are all the products of incest? Wait, where in the bible did it mention eve had a daughter?'
Logic doesnt play a significant role, most theories are limiting cases of better theories and so on.
Why is this turning into another religion thing again anyway
Because its about evolution...
And logic tells me that since something like 80-90% of my DNA is useless for defining a human and 60% of that junk is the same as a starfish, that we just might be related. Seems logical enough to me...
shawndavid
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Most Christians I know don't take every story in the Bible at face value, least of all the whole "Ark" bit.
Who ever said that religion and evolution are mutually exclusive. Get the fuck over it. A couple crazies, very loud ones are constantly crying about evolution, the vast majority either dont care, or have reconciled it. Creationist crying is a largely American phenomenon. Anglican, Catholic, Orthodox and Judaism all teach hard science the same way. A Catholic priest came up with the big bang theory, Mendel (the guy who invented genetics) was ALSO a Catholic priest.
(http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/10180b.htm [ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mendel[/ame])
Ignorance as a virtue is distinctive of American evangelist theology, and some outlier Catholic Diocese (Africa, South America). It's not the norm. Actually from the catholic encyclopedia --> "the idea that the universe came into existence as a result of a cataclysmic explosion of highly compressed matter is not inconsistent with the Catholic teaching that God created the universe."
As to logic:
Evolution and most of biology is case examples, you cant prove it so you use the best guess and build on it. Otherwise it wouldnt be radically changed every 40 or so years. Things that DNA proved, were held as theories before they were proved, they couldve been wrong. It's best guess science, logic implies immutable truth. As for Darwinism:
"Darwinism is not a testable scientific theory, but a metaphysical research program." -Karl Popper
The current theory of evolution started with Darwin, but he didnt come up with any universal truths. Mendel probably deserves more credit. Kinda annoying how journalists put everything in a blender and manage to come up with completely worthless ideas about how things are put together.
"On the Origin of Species" focused more on natural selection than true evolution. Equating 'Darwinism' to the theory of evolution is erroneous.
Who ever said that religion and evolution are mutually exclusive. Get the fuck over it. A couple crazies, very loud ones are constantly crying about evolution, the vast majority either dont care, or have reconciled it. Creationist crying is a largely American phenomenon. Anglican, Catholic, Orthodox and Judaism all teach hard science the same way. A Catholic priest came up with the big bang theory, Mendel (the guy who invented genetics) was ALSO a Catholic priest.
(http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/10180b.htm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mendel)
Ignorance as a virtue is distinctive of American evangelist theology, and some outlier Catholic Diocese (Africa, South America). It's not the norm. Actually from the catholic encyclopedia --> "the idea that the universe came into existence as a result of a cataclysmic explosion of highly compressed matter is not inconsistent with the Catholic teaching that God created the universe."
As to logic:
Evolution and most of biology is case examples, you cant prove it so you use the best guess and build on it. Otherwise it wouldnt be radically changed every 40 or so years. Things that DNA proved, were held as theories before they were proved, they couldve been wrong. It's best guess science, logic implies immutable truth. As for Darwinism:
"Darwinism is not a testable scientific theory, but a metaphysical research program." -Karl Popper
The current theory of evolution started with Darwin, but he didnt come up with any universal truths. Mendel probably deserves more credit. Kinda annoying how journalists put everything in a blender and manage to come up with completely worthless ideas about how things are put together.
When did I say religion and evolution were mutually exclusive? Or any of that other drivel for that manner? Way to knock down those straw men good sir. You rock.
Wut? Correct me if I'm wrong, but evolution is natural selection.
and technically sexual selection, but mostly natural selection.
Charles Darwin published On the Origin of Species in 1859, but evolutionary ideas such as common descent and the transmutation of species have existed since at least the 6th century B.C.! By the mid-19th century (and before the publication of Species), evolution was generally accepted as fact, although without a method of explaining how it happened. After Species was published, scientists were given a much greater understanding of how natural selection affects evolution.
It wasn't until the 1930s that modern evolutionary synthesis was formed by combining Darwinian natural selection with Mendelian inheritance. Scientists finally made the connection between the units of evolution (genes) and the mechanism (natural selection).
The idea of natural selection - a term that he coined in On the Origin of Species - was Darwin's major contribution toward evolutionary biology. The notion of evolution existed well before Darwin was born, and modern evolutionary biology was formulated roughly 50 years after his death. It's understandable to want to give Darwin credit for his discovery, but let's make sure we do just that: give Darwin credit for his contribution to the theory of evolution, and not credit him with the theory altogether.
It wasn't until the 1930s that modern evolutionary synthesis was formed by combining Darwinian natural selection with Mendelian inheritance. Scientists finally made the connection between the units of evolution (genes) and the mechanism (natural selection).
The idea of natural selection - a term that he coined in On the Origin of Species - was Darwin's major contribution toward evolutionary biology. The notion of evolution existed well before Darwin was born, and modern evolutionary biology was formulated roughly 50 years after his death. It's understandable to want to give Darwin credit for his discovery, but let's make sure we do just that: give Darwin credit for his contribution to the theory of evolution, and not credit him with the theory altogether.