WTF Judge calls for hammer ban after death of Johnathan Thurston's uncle Richard Saunders

[my little brony]

No mention has been made of threatening gestures. Someone carrying a large rock down the sidewalk does not constitute a threat to you.

This is far from "common sense". At no point did either of you specify that the law only applies when someone is being threatened with these implements.

 

[DJBrenton]

For Christ sake, you think the police in the UK or Australia arrest workmen for carrying screwdrivers? The law is designed to catch people carrying such items without legitimate reason. Generally it might be a gang member carrying a screwdriver or someone carring a jemmy at night without reason. No response to the second part of my post? You see a man swinging a hammer as a threat? He might just be taking practice swings on his way to work, but I'd still consider him a threat.


edit - there's no point in continuing this debate. You live in a country that, for the most part, considers it acceptable to carry guns. I don't. If guns aren't considered offensive then I accept screwdrivers can't possibly be, but then I'd have to call machetes and spears OK too.

 

[my little brony]

Why does one have to be a "workman" to carry a screwdriver? If I choose to walk around with a screwdriver just for the fucking hell of it I can. I don't need to prove a legitimate reason to anyone.

A threatening gesture adds a different element to the discussion that wasn't originally brought up.

 

[DJBrenton]

Why does one have to be a "workman" to carry a screwdriver? If I choose to walk around with a screwdriver just for the fucking hell of it I can. I don't need to prove a legitimate reason to anyone.

A threatening gesture adds a different element to the discussion that wasn't originally brought up.

I refer you to my edit.

 

[APRIL]

If you are not trolling, then you are plain stupid.

Forgive me, but I am completely missing the logic behind this law. Sounds like a free country to me. /sarcasm

 

[Coqui]

35 posts and not one 'Stop! Hammer time!'?

You guys suck

You suck for not getting my M.C. Hammer reference.

 

[Coqui]

better than this shit hole.

We can carry hammers without having to explain ourselves.

 

[Coqui]

Why does one have to be a "workman" to carry a screwdriver? If I choose to walk around with a screwdriver just for the fucking hell of it I can. I don't need to prove a legitimate reason to anyone.

A threatening gesture adds a different element to the discussion that wasn't originally brought up.

Things I have carried in my pockets for long periods of time that can be construed as weapons:

pens
pencils
screwdrivers
hammer
Exacto Knives

They all were for work purposes (having them) but I had them in locations that weren't related to work (getting lunch, travelling to locations, etc.)

 

[Floptical]

Things I have carried in my pockets for long periods of time that can be construed as weapons:

pens
pencils
screwdrivers
hammer
Exacto Knives

They all were for work purposes (having them) but I had them in locations that weren't related to work (getting lunch, travelling to locations, etc.)

Like anyone is going to think twice about a Hispanic man carrying tools.

 

[Syrup Beaver]

I'm going to open carry a hammer day in celebration of my right to keep and bear hammers.

 

[dbzeag]

my penis spreads aids. its a deadly weapon

Funny enough, yes. In some states and countries, if you do not disclose your HIV status, you are committing voluntary manslaughter or more serious.

 

[OzSTEEZ]

We can carry hammers without having to explain ourselves.

Different culture, different problems, different laws.

Also, you have laws here that are much more.........strange.

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...ting-images-that-cause-emotional-distress.ars
Tenn. law bans posting images that "cause emotional distress"

 

[JAXvillain]

You suck for not getting my M.C. Hammer reference.

she wasn't even born yet

 

[OzSTEEZ]

The same could be said about swords, spears and clubs with nails in. 'I simply want to carry them' wouldn't go down all that well with the cops I suspect.

Even though you've explained it clearly to them, they will never understand because it's counterproductive to their desire to paint any other country than America in a bad light.

 

[my little brony]

Even though you've explained it clearly to them, they will never understand because it's counterproductive to their desire to paint any other country than America in a bad light.

no it's simply counter to the idea that one should be presumed innocent until proven guilty. one should not have to prove legitimate reason for merely carrying a tool.

 

[Floptical]

but I don't even know Richard Saunders

 

[eileenbunny]

Yeah, it's got nothing to do with our country being better than another country. If someone proposed that law here I'd be the first to say how dumb it was. Why not just leave the laws that say you shouldn't hurt anyone in place and leave the weapons out of it? A hammer cannot hurt anyone on it's own but I could kill someone with a piece of string if I wanted to.

 

[Syrup Beaver]

What if I trip over the hammer while riding a tandem bicycle with my twin?

 

[eileenbunny]

What if I trip over the hammer while riding a tandem bicycle with my twin?

Then you aren't doing it right I think.

 

[Syrup Beaver]

That's society's fault, not mine.

I'm going to sue the hammer manufacturer, the make of my shoes, my twin, and the town.