Creepy Scientology vid feat. Tom Cruise

Can we just agree that we will never ever ever ever know?

Well, an effective argument to this statement is that the very definition of faith is a tangible belief in something without tangible evidence. By agreeing that one will never know completely invalidates faith... it's an interesting catch 22
 
no :lol: ever since he made his comments on evolution i've been shaking my head and wondering wtf the world is coming to

he's still heads above all the rest but that completely shook my confidence in him.

What did he say about er.. evolution :lol:
 
Well, an effective argument to this statement is that the very definition of faith is a tangible belief in something without tangible evidence. By agreeing that one will never know completely invalidates faith... it's an interesting catch 22

:D Very good.

no :lol: ever since he made his comments on evolution i've been shaking my head and wondering wtf the world is coming to

he's still heads above all the rest but that completely shook my confidence in him.

:lol: I bet you choked when you heard all the blah blah blah that Huckabee stands for.
 
What did he say about er.. evolution :lol:

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"it's a theory"

"i don't accept it"


:(:(:(:(:( he's nearly perfect in any other way. spectacular domestic policy, the only foreign policy that will actually keep us safe and actually gives a damn about the constitution.

because of his record and principles I still trust him more than any other candidate not to let his religious beliefs get in the way of his job but the very fact that a person can look at evidence and not draw a logical conclusion from it makes me severely doubt his ability to do the same in other situations

still, he's better than anyone else out there and I'm still gonna vote for him in the primaries and if by some miracle (lol) he actually gets the nod I will volunteer for the campaign.

but this irks the hell out of me
 
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:lol: I bet you choked when you heard all the blah blah blah that Huckabee stands for.

meh, I never liked him in the first place. he pretends to be a convservative but doesn't even pull off being a neoconservative properly. but his comments about changing the constitution to be in line with god? jesus christ at cracker barrel, it makes me sad that this country is so full of people that will actually LIKE that :(
 
the difference is that being gay is not a choice.

you can't lose your job over your religion. unfortunately. the law already prohibits it.

witch hunt? :lol: first of all, tens of thousands were killed. six MILLION died in the holocaust. bit of a difference.

second, no wiccans were involved in said witch hunt because it was invented by a nutty anthropologist in the 20th century.

if you want to believe that witchcraft is real, more power to ya :heart: but in my eyes it holds about as much water as noah's ark

A teacher lost her job for being wiccan in the past ten years.

9 million were killed in the witch hunt.

Wiccan is a sect or witchcraft just like Baptists or Presbyterians.
 
meh, I never liked him in the first place. he pretends to be a convservative but doesn't even pull off being a neoconservative properly. but his comments about changing the constitution to be in line with god? jesus christ at cracker barrel, it makes me sad that this country is so full of people that will actually LIKE that :(

omg if I'm not mistaken, that's the dude my brother was trying to get me to vote for.
 
A teacher lost her job for being wiccan in the past ten years.

9 million were killed in the witch hunt.

Wiccan is a sect or witchcraft just like Baptists or Presbyterians.

No, seriously, Wicca was established in the 20th century by an archaeologist. It's philosophies and traditions are a potpurri of older and vastly different paganistic religions. Witchcraft and shamanism is way older than Christianity, yes, but wicca is brand new, the religions it's based off of are older... if that makes sense
 
meh, I never liked him in the first place. he pretends to be a convservative but doesn't even pull off being a neoconservative properly. but his comments about changing the constitution to be in line with god? jesus christ at cracker barrel, it makes me sad that this country is so full of people that will actually LIKE that :(

He is ridiculous and against everything I believe in. I was floored he won in Iowa... how could that be?

But to give him credit, he was pretty funny on the Colbert Report. Huck-a-burger!
 
A teacher lost her job for being wiccan in the past ten years.
where? was this before it was a legally recognized religion? ever consider the possibility that maybe it wasn't just about her being wiccan but she was acting inappropriately as well?
9 million were killed in the witch hunt.
:thrawn: elaborate
Wiccan is a sect or witchcraft just like Baptists or Presbyterians.

that was invented in 1954

again, people wanna believe that witchcraft or anything supernatural is actually real, go ahead. I don't care. but I do find it as amusing as grown adults still believing in santa clause or the easter bunny
 
No, seriously, Wicca was established in the 20th century by an archaeologist. It's philosophies and traditions are a potpurri of older and vastly different paganistic religions. Witchcraft and shamanism is way older than Christianity, yes, but wicca is brand new, the religions it's based off of are older... if that makes sense

You are going to throw her world off balance, stop that. :lol:
 
omg if I'm not mistaken, that's the dude my brother was trying to get me to vote for.

he's a riot :lol:


Huckabee opposes abortion, same-sex marriage, and civil unions. In an interview with GQ Magazine, Huckabee said, "There’s never been a civilization that has rewritten what marriage and family means and survived."[161]

Huckabee has credited divine intervention with some of his political success.[179]
 
again, people wanna believe that witchcraft or anything supernatural is actually real, go ahead. I don't care. but I do find it as amusing as grown adults still believing in santa clause or the easter bunny

...or religion at all for that matter.
 
You are going to throw her world off balance, stop that. :lol:

I'm not saying it's wrong, and I'm not invalidating any of the philosophies or beliefs which Wicca has adopted, I'm just saying that the religion as practiced today isn't nearly as old as she might think... but that isn't to say that the rites, rituals, philosophies and/or traditions which it has embraced are any less potent or valid.
 
again, people wanna believe that witchcraft or anything supernatural is actually real, go ahead. I don't care. but I do find it as amusing as grown adults still believing in santa clause or the easter bunny

You know I think I'd be more inclined to believe in a spiritual connection with the divine based upon an intermingling life force energy flowing through the universe than I would to believe in some dude walking around provoking the establishment to his death and then rising from the dead.
 
No, seriously, Wicca was established in the 20th century by an archaeologist. It's philosophies and traditions are a potpurri of older and vastly different paganistic religions. Witchcraft and shamanism is way older than Christianity, yes, but wicca is brand new, the religions it's based off of are older... if that makes sense

I got ya there. That's why I was comparing it to the sects of Christianity to show that the roots were more than 20th century roots but I don't think that I communicated that very clearly.
 
You know I think I'd be more inclined to believe in a spiritual connection with the divine based upon an intermingling life force energy flowing through the universe than I would to believe in some dude walking around provoking the establishment to his death and then rising from the dead.

same here




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