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Are there any NEC code that prevent me from tapping into an existing interior plug for an outdoor plug? This assumes I use all the proper tools and wiring.
 
fly said:
Are there any NEC code that prevent me from tapping into an existing interior plug for an outdoor plug? This assumes I use all the proper tools and wiring.
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You'll have to GFCI the outdoor, and put it in a weatherproof inclosure. Remember, no pigtail installations on GFCIs, and that you cant go off a small appliance circuit (the two 20a circuits in your kitchen for countertop appliances)

But other than that its fine. The one downside will be if the GFCI trips, everything downchain on the same circuit will also turn off
 
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Assuming its not at the end of a circuit, heres your wiring diagram
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Note how theres no connection between power and anything past the gfci, all passes through the gfci
 
fly said:
It's just black to black, white to white, etc? Or am I missing something?
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No, you were given a drawing that needlessly complicated it for you, unless you are trying to GFCI protect both outlets. And of course the all-important ground. Yes you can pigtail that onto the other outlet - you don't have to run both through the GFCI.
 
Domon said:
the important bit is that you use the load terminals on the GFCI to carry the black and whites beyond the gfci outlet.
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If you want to. Often people don't want the GFCI clacking off to shut off another outlet on the circuit.

Ironically, as you've described how you like to run the supply from point to point, pig-tailing to the outlets and never having the supply running through an outlet, you couldn't protect a second outlet with a GFCI outlet(without deviating from your method). You are intentionally providing an uninterrupted supply. fly probably isn't wired that way, just like 99% of America.
 
wetwillie said:
If you want to. Often people don't want the GFCI clacking off to shut off another outlet on the circuit.

Ironically, as you've described how you like to run the supply from point to point, pig-tailing to the outlets and never having the supply running through an outlet, you couldn't protect a second outlet with a GFCI outlet(without deviating from your method). You are intentionally providing an uninterrupted supply. fly probably isn't wired that way, just like 99% of America.
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I'm totally fine with the protection that GFCIs offer. I hate working with electricity and anything that can reduce my chances of getting shocked is awesome in my book.
 
fly said:
I'm totally fine with the protection that GFCIs offer. I hate working with electricity and anything that can reduce my chances of getting shocked is awesome in my book.
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Unless you are going to add on another outlet beyond that GFCI, what was proposed(not by me) is more difficult. You could bring supply & ground from that inside outlet and protect only the outside outlet. 3 wires, no color changes, so simple a fly can do it. If your inside outlet is in a place where you could easily get shocked, it would be worth the trouble. Living room outlet(the tie-in) - nah.

Yer such a bro.
 
fly said:
I'm totally fine with the protection that GFCIs offer. I hate working with electricity and anything that can reduce my chances of getting shocked is awesome in my book.
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Are you running AFCI or GFCI breakers already? That would mean you can run whatever the fuck outlet you feel like downstream and still be afforded the protection demanded by code.
 
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fly said:
Nope.
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Then do what @Domon suggested and find the outlet closest to the breaker box on the circuit you want to take outside, and follow his diagram for putting the rest on the "load" portion of the GFCI outlet, follow the prescribed ablutions for selecting an outdoor box, and go on your merry way.

Stick your dick in it to test the GFCI function.
 
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Jehannum said:
Then do what @Domon suggested and find the outlet closest to the breaker box on the circuit you want to take outside, and follow his diagram for putting the rest on the "load" portion of the GFCI outlet, follow the prescribed ablutions for selecting an outdoor box, and go on your merry way.

Stick your dick in it to test the GFCI function.
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What's the easiest way to do that? And if I don't really care about protecting the whole circuit with a GFCI (and have to buy two), I can just put it on the outside box, correct?
 
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fly said:
What's the easiest way to do that? And if I don't really care about protecting the whole circuit with a GFCI (and have to buy two), I can just put it on the outside box, correct?
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Yes, you can stick it on the end of the circuit and it would protect only that outlet.

I don't know what code says about a GFCI outside, but if you were to run a new circuit straight outside, you'd probably have to have the GFCI there, so logic dictates that it should be allowed.
 
fly said:
What's the easiest way to do that? And if I don't really care about protecting the whole circuit with a GFCI (and have to buy two), I can just put it on the outside box, correct?
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(last part)Yes, which is what I kept telling you. Considering how cheap they are, a person doesn't HAVE to daisy-chain them just to save $7-12 per outlet.

However, considering you are probably on a slab in a relatively humid environment, GFCI everywhere is probably a good idea.
 
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