Advice The Home Improvement/Automation Thread

[Domon]

because motion only tags in.

Specific scenario: Dropped keys in back yard someplace

Found when I walked through the backyard with motion, saw keys were still around neck on lanyard. Dialed forward and back in the 24/7 stream to find the point when I no longer had the lanyard around my neck. Then dialed into the specific point where it dropped and noted my location.

Motion events are just that, events. I needed the full stream to narrow in.

 

[Jehannum]

because motion only tags in.

Specific scenario: Dropped keys in back yard someplace

Found when I walked through the backyard with motion, saw keys were still around neck on lanyard. Dialed forward and back in the 24/7 stream to find the point when I no longer had the lanyard around my neck. Then dialed into the specific point where it dropped and noted my location.

Motion events are just that, events. I needed the full stream to narrow in.

That's... not how motion detection events work.

They record all the motion, plus a fixed period before and after (I have it configured for 1 minute).

So, I would get the video of you dropping your lanyard, and not have a billion hours of footage to swipe through.

 

[Domon]

 

[Mr. Argumentor]

I used my 24/7 recording to figure out where I lost something this morning. Found the exact moment when I dropped it, went and found it where i dropped it.

... you knew exactly what the response would be when you posted this, right? I did as soon as I read it.

 

[Domon]

... you knew exactly what the response would be when you posted this, right? I did as soon as I read it.

that why didnt i just go walk in the yard? yeah.

Its also not a real example.

 

[Mr. Argumentor]

that why didnt i just go walk in the yard? yeah.

Its also not a real example.

What? No. That "you walking = motion that would be detected."

 

[Domon]

What? No. That "you walking = motion that would be detected."

the actual problem with motion events is that theyre usually not continuous. Motion is detected, recorded for a set period, and then theres either a cooldown or another event.

 

[Jehannum]

Ah, so instead of acknowledging that what I've said is totally reasonable, you'll just roll your eyes.

So, raging thundercunt it is!

 

[Jehannum]

the actual problem with motion events is that theyre usually not continuous. Motion is detected, recorded for a set period, and then theres either a cooldown or another event.

"I can't figure out how to reasonably configure a moving window algorithm" doesn't mean that motion detection is useless.

 

[fly]

"I can't figure out how to reasonably configure a moving window algorithm" doesn't mean that motion detection is useless.

Show us the events that your motion detection misses. Or show me 100% proof that it doesn't miss anything.

 

[Jehannum]

Show us the events that your motion detection misses. Or show me 100% proof that it doesn't miss anything.

Prove you're better than a computer at detecting motion. That's your assertion here, btw.

 

[fly]

Prove you're better than a computer at detecting motion. That's your assertion here, btw.

No. I have plenty of motion cameras and they occasionally miss shit. But I'm sure your homegrown solution is 100x better.

 

[Jehannum]

No. I have plenty of motion cameras and they occasionally miss shit. But I'm sure your homegrown solution is 100x better.

I'm using the default firmware in the Dahua cameras.

 

[fly]

I'm using the default firmware in the Dahua cameras.

Great!

 

[Jehannum]

Great!

Better than watching a video every morning about what happened the night before.

 

[fly]

Better than watching a video every morning about what happened the night before.

It literally take about 5-10 seconds to scroll through an entire night. And guess what, I don't get 35 videos when a leaf moved!

 

[Jehannum]

It literally take about 5-10 seconds to scroll through an entire night. And guess what, I don't get 35 videos when a leaf moved!

I bet you're worse than the computer at identifying motion if you're compressing 8 hours into 5 seconds.

 

[fly]

I bet you're worse than the computer at identifying motion if you're compressing 8 hours into 5 seconds.

So yeah, you don't understand what I'm doing and how well it works. Got it. How about you keep your garbage system and I'll make a good one!

 

[Jehannum]

So yeah, you don't understand what I'm doing and how well it works. Got it. How about you keep your garbage system and I'll make a good one!

NO UR SYSTEM IS GARBAGE

I like how mine is simple, reliable, and doesn't need me to look at it constantly. But you do you. I'm sure you're WAY better than computers at analyzing footage at many times actual speed.

Or maybe you could do like @Domon and come up with something that didn't happen that doesn't even demonstrate how what you're describing is useful!

 

[APRIL]

Ahh UF, you time wasters.