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HipHugHer

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how in the world does anything come under budget for a job like that. Material is fixed, and hourly rates could have just as easily seen you pay double if they slowed things way down to rack up the bills.
If they did it right they padded the estimate because some unforseen shit always happens, then they cut him a little break for moving his own furniture out away from the walls, made him feels good like he got a deal. Then they ran the crew through there as fast as they could while still doing a good job because slowing down to pad the clock is not something an employer will allow. Then they made out good themselves too because that unexpected thing that threw a wrench in the works and cost a bunch of extra time and labor didn't happen.
 

HipHugHer

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If they did it right they padded the estimate because some unforseen shit always happens, then they cut him a little break for moving his own furniture out away from the walls, made him feels good like he got a deal. Then they ran the crew through there as fast as they could while still doing a good job because slowing down to pad the clock is not something an employer will allow. Then they made out good themselves too because that unexpected thing that threw a wrench in the works and cost a bunch of extra time and labor didn't happen.

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If they're lucky they'll get to keep some of that for a job well done.

The rest will get ate up on some future job where the people said they'll have shit ready, then when the crew shows up there's still 150 pictures hanging on the walls, stacks of hoarder shit they can't work around, a piano with a broken leg that has to be moved out of the way, and, and, and...
 

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If they did it right they padded the estimate because some unforseen shit always happens, then they cut him a little break for moving his own furniture out away from the walls, made him feels good like he got a deal. Then they ran the crew through there as fast as they could while still doing a good job because slowing down to pad the clock is not something an employer will allow. Then they made out good themselves too because that unexpected thing that threw a wrench in the works and cost a bunch of extra time and labor didn't happen.
Ok. But painting has a lot less of that unexpected factor than many other construction type activities.
$2k for good feels? Over scooting a few pieces away from the walls?:iono: Wondering what the paint job cost. . .:oops:
 

HipHugHer

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Ok. But painting has a lot less of that unexpected factor than many other construction type activities.
$2k for good feels? Over scooting a few pieces away from the walls?:iono: Wondering what the paint job cost. . .:oops:
Apparently a lot of furniture moving and other prep is done by paint crews up there. I've seen plenty of houses it could take a weekend just to clear enough path to get around all the walls.

I assume they'd be moving it all back at the end too.
More of a full service type thing than just applying paint.
 
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Apparently a lot of furniture moving and other prep is done by paint crews up there. I've seen plenty of houses it could take a weekend just to clear enough path to get around all the walls.

I assume they'd be moving it all back at the end too.
More of a full service type thing than just applying paint.
No no no. We're talking about just "scooting a few pieces away from the wall" cause that's what the guy that has never seen the house said would need to be done.
 

HipHugHer

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Talking out his ass.....
Um, you said that discount was because apparently they thought they'd be doing all the furniture moving


And yes, if you don't figure something for unforseen circumstances in your bids you won't stay in business very long.
 

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No no no. We're talking about just "scooting a few pieces away from the wall" cause that's what the guy that has never seen the house said would need to be done.

The way it reads they looked at the place, saw what all needed to be done, and figured up a bid.

Then when they came to paint, some of the prep was done for them, so they gave him a break.

If that's not how it went, then some details are missing.
 

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Apparently a lot of furniture moving and other prep is done by paint crews up there. I've seen plenty of houses it could take a weekend just to clear enough path to get around all the walls.

I assume they'd be moving it all back at the end too.
More of a full service type thing than just applying paint.
I guess I was thinking they probably don't have a lot of furniture. No kids, fairly young, large house, probably not dirty or smoke and other crap on the walls or it would have been done sooner. Kind of house 3 healthy bodies can load into a truck in 5-6 hours. Clear a paint path in 1-1.5. idk
 

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No no no. We're talking about just "scooting a few pieces away from the wall" cause that's what the guy that has never seen the house said would need to be done.
From what we've seen of his living room, it is very sparsely filled with furniture. Again, other than his work areas, I highly doubt the Valves have their house filled like someone on American Hoarders.
 

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The way it reads they looked at the place, saw what all needed to be done, and figured up a bid.

Then when they came to paint, some of the prep was done for them, so they gave him a break.

If that's not how it went, then some details are missing.
That's what I figured had happened as well, you'd have to ask others why they have a problem with $2k being dropped from the cost.
 
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I'm sure they have plenty of clients in these parts where they wind up having to empty furniture just stuffed with shit like heavy dishes and things.

We just did all that for them.

The quote was reasonable to begin with, they have good references, including a friend of ours.

No big deal as far as I'm concerned.
 
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wetwille

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That's what I figured had happened as well, you'd have to ask others why they have a problem with $2k being dropped from the cost.
Just seems like a high cost for moving furniture and possibly a little prep - that hasn't been revealed. Even if the house has 12 rooms and requires $2k in really good paint, it's probably only a $6-8k paint job. I have about 3,000 square and I've been quoted as low $3500. They expect you to move valuables and unload heavier cabinets. Every crew has someone who excels at running from room to room with spackle, painters caulk, etc. and make quick work of any fill work. Ditto for any taping. I've done a shit ton of this myself and just don't see $2k getting nipped off a paint job. Maybe $500
 

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That's what I figured had happened as well, you'd have to ask others why they have a problem with $2k being dropped from the cost.
$2k seems a lot just for moving some furniture out of the way. Idk, maybe some other parts of the job went smoothly and didn't eat up as much time as they thought they would.

I certainly wouldn't have a problem with a discount like that
 
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