Supreme Court says F NO! to DC sniper

Jonny_B said:
child rappers should also be killed.
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Nemo said:
:D Computers don't lie and if you got thousands of baby porn pics on there then you're pretty sick.
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Actually, there are viruses out there that plant child porn on peoples computer. This was in the news a week or so ago. Some dude got busted and then was found innocent due to the virus.
 
Nemo said:
When is the death penalty not a cheaper option eileen?
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The death penalty is never the cheaper option. There are two main culprits: maintenance of the killing infrastructure and the appeals process.

You have to maintain death row. That means paying the guards -- who make a shit ton more money than your typical guards, and paying for upkeep on the equipment and facilities. The staff also has to include certain doctors. The state is shooting out fat paychecks left and right to keep the place open. And so while you're paying all this money to keep death row alive, the appeals process is working to insure that convicted murderers live decades past their sentencing, waiting for their "fair shake."

If Republicans want to concern themselves with government pissing away money, they should start here.
 
April23 said:
How can a person be 100% sure that a person is guilty?
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Some cases are slam dunks. Confessions, witnesses, DNA, photos, video, etc. And some aren't. But we still execute (or imprison) them anyway. It really hits home in Dallas, because we constantly have stories in the press about local jails and prisons releasing people after 10-20 years when DNA evidence clears them.

I have very little faith in our judicial system, and I downright despise the gung-ho prosecutors who live for convictions. (And get their funding because of them.)

Imagine being incarcerated for something you didn't do for years or decades. The one life you get on this planet is ruined. Your relationships are destroyed. And all you get is a "my bad." Now imagine being strapped to that gurney, minutes from oblivion. Talk about helpless and ridiculous. It happens pretty often, I'm sure.
 
Sarcasmo said:
Some cases are slam dunks. Confessions, witnesses, DNA, photos, video, etc. And some aren't. But we still execute (or imprison) them anyway. It really hits home in Dallas, because we constantly have stories in the press about local jails and prisons releasing people after 10-20 years when DNA evidence clears them.

I have very little faith in our judicial system, and I downright despise the gung-ho prosecutors who live for convictions. (And get their funding because of them.)

Imagine being incarcerated for something you didn't do for years or decades. The one life you get on this planet is ruined. Your relationships are destroyed. And all you get is a "my bad." Now imagine being strapped to that gurney, minutes from oblivion. Talk about helpless and ridiculous. It happens pretty often, I'm sure.
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I was watching a City Confidential the other day where a teenager who was not guilty actually wrote a murder confession, under the pressure of police officers in the room.

So even confessions aren't slam dunks. Fucked up.
 
Sarcasmo said:
Some cases are slam dunks. Confessions, witnesses, DNA, photos, video, etc. And some aren't. But we still execute (or imprison) them anyway. It really hits home in Dallas, because we constantly have stories in the press about local jails and prisons releasing people after 10-20 years when DNA evidence clears them.

I have very little faith in our judicial system, and I downright despise the gung-ho prosecutors who live for convictions. (And get their funding because of them.)

Imagine being incarcerated for something you didn't do for years or decades. The one life you get on this planet is ruined. Your relationships are destroyed. And all you get is a "my bad." Now imagine being strapped to that gurney, minutes from oblivion. Talk about helpless and ridiculous. It happens pretty often, I'm sure.
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Even with confessions, DNA, witnesses, etc one could still not be 100% sure.
 
Casper said:
I was watching a City Confidential the other day where a teenager who was not guilty actually wrote a murder confession, under the pressure of police officers in the room.

So even confessions aren't slam dunks. Fucked up.
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By themselves they aren't. With all the other stuff they're pretty hard to take back.
 
i think the law here is that you must be sure "beyond a reasonable doubt". I thought Canada used the stricter "beyond a shadow of a doubt" but that appears to not be the case.
 
Casper said:
The death penalty is never the cheaper option. There are two main culprits: maintenance of the killing infrastructure and the appeals process.

You have to maintain death row. That means paying the guards -- who make a shit ton more money than your typical guards, and paying for upkeep on the equipment and facilities. The staff also has to include certain doctors. The state is shooting out fat paychecks left and right to keep the place open. And so while you're paying all this money to keep death row alive, the appeals process is working to insure that convicted murderers live decades past their sentencing, waiting for their "fair shake."

If Republicans want to concern themselves with government pissing away money, they should start here.
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This is mostly the answer. I don't have the figures in front of me, but I wound up debating this issue a few times in college. I think it costs about one and a half million more per person to finish the appeals process and carry out an execution instead of just letting them rot in a maximum security prison if you assume the average inmate stays there for 40 years.
 
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