Ontopic Should California and Oregon seek secession?

[nukes]

Sounds like my kind of place!

Seriously though, why not take Washington with you?

I've got no horse in this race, lady.
I startem threads. if they stimulate fascinating intercourse then so be it.

 

[Hoff Kinkmeister]

But the libs will pass a law requiring condoms to be used in porn, pushing that industry out of the blue areas.

Is Michael Weinstein a liberal?

 

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if we had strong states and a week fed the nation wouldn't be so divided since the red areas could do their thing and the blue could do there's without the fed trying to force one thing on all.

 

[Hoff Kinkmeister]

if we had strong states and a week fed the nation wouldn't be so divided since the red areas could do their thing and the blue could do there's without the fed trying to force one thing on all.

Where would the red states get all their government aid then? Life would be even worse in them.

 

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Where would the red states get all their government aid then? Life would be even worse in them.

The money they'd save from not paying for abortions.

 

[Hoff Kinkmeister]

The money they'd save from not paying for abortions.

My apologies: I was unaware you came cogently unarmed.

 

[my little brony]

if we had strong states and a week fed the nation wouldn't be so divided since the red areas could do their thing and the blue could do there's without the fed trying to force one thing on all.

We would also still have segregation and women would be thrown in jail for having abortions. States rights are not a panacea, problems are far more complex than that.

 

[my little brony]

Not to mention we've all agreed that states aren't red and blue, it's cities and rural areas. Weaker fed would have jack shit to do with the rest of Illinois being controlled by Chicago or LA and SF controlling California.

 

[Hoff Kinkmeister]

We would also still have segregation and women would be thrown in jail for having abortions. States rights are not a panacea, problems are far more complex than that.

"States' Rights!" is basically admitting that there's no reasonable, non-shitty reason you should get what you want.

 

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Not to mention we've all agreed that states aren't red and blue, it's cities and rural areas. Weaker fed would have jack shit to do with the rest of Illinois being controlled by Chicago or LA and SF controlling California.

so how do you bridge that rural/city divide?

 

[Hoff Kinkmeister]

so how do you bridge that rural/city divide?

Education

 

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Education

city schools have been a failure so far, how do you fix them?

 

[Mr. Argumentor]

city schools have been a failure so far, how do you fix them?

Why do you think k-12 is the issue?
Considering that the majority of those that voted for Trump only had a high school education, why do you think cities are the problem?

 

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Why do you think k-12 is the issue?
Considering that the majority of those that voted for Trump only had a high school education, why do you think cities are the problem?

i forgot to fill out the demographics portion of my ballet i guess.

 

[Hoff Kinkmeister]

city schools have been a failure so far, how do you fix them?

$$$

 

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$$$

we tried that, complete failure. billion dollars spent on the school district, highest cost per student in entire area by far (i think the entire nation even), and it still lost its accreditation. outside of sending kids off to a full out boarding school, i don't think throwing money at them for 7 hours a day is going to do anything.

edit: you can google all about it, this was one of the first links, don't know anything about the site or it's slant but it's a decent summary: https://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa-298.html

 

[Hoff Kinkmeister]

we tried that, complete failure. billion dollars spent on the school district, highest cost per student in entire area by far (i think the entire nation even), and it still lost its accreditation. outside of sending kids off to a full out boarding school, i don't think throwing money at them for 7 hours a day is going to do anything.

edit: you can google all about it, this was one of the first links, don't know anything about the site or it's slant but it's a decent summary: https://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa-298.html

Not just the schools, but the entire population. Do the schools better too. It will take hard work and responsibility, so I can see how a champion of red states would take issue.

Lol Cato Institute lol

 

[Hoff Kinkmeister]

Fuck, why am I doing this?

 

[my little brony]

city schools have been a failure so far, how do you fix them?

do you understand why some "city schools" are failures? because there are many which are among the best public schools in the west

do you think schools in rural areas are any better?

 

[my little brony]

we tried that, complete failure. billion dollars spent on the school district, highest cost per student in entire area by far (i think the entire nation even), and it still lost its accreditation. outside of sending kids off to a full out boarding school, i don't think throwing money at them for 7 hours a day is going to do anything.

edit: you can google all about it, this was one of the first links, don't know anything about the site or it's slant but it's a decent summary: https://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa-298.html

with your libertarian leanings you cannot pretend to know nothing about cato