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HipHugHer

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and the Bush'es...
I was going to say exactly this but got sidetracked. That one was actually father and son.

Roosevelts could be another though more distant relatives.

That's disregarding countless examples of family holding high/influential positions if outside of the Oval office. Hell, our current president is the king of nepotism and he doesn't even care.
 

King Wickie

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Uh huh, so no chain of custody, and no vetting of the information, and yet you're willing to lap it up.

Tell me, when did you stop beating your girlfriend?

fbi now have the laptop
 
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wetwille

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Face it Ed, they're just nitpicking the statistics minutiae because my overarching points about the debt and money printing being unsustainable and social security being a fraud in an empty suit are inarguable.
I agree SS is fucked on funding, due to pilaging. And bad math, based on data they didn't have since shit keeps changing. Particularly life expectancy. I think it's an ok social safety net for the injured, guys like immi, etc. Gotta make another game plan sonny.
As far as not paying an SS tax I am afraid most of the public would piss it awayn and not put inything into investment/retirement "vehicles".
 
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HipHugHer

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@wetwille Dr. Trump will be in my town saturday. should i go to the rally?
We were going to go to a Trump thing here in 2016 figuring it would be a pretty good party or weird experience or whatever. Then our cat got sick so we stayed home to nurse him instead.

It wouldn't take a family member getting sick to steer me clear of anybody's political shit now days.

The only other thing I've graced with my presence was Kinky Friedman's get together at a bar downtown here when he lost the race for governor. We really missed out not electing that guy.
 

HipHugHer

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I agree SS is fucked on funding, due to pilaging. And bad math, based on data they didn't have since shit keeps changing. Particularly life expectancy. I think it's an ok social safety net for the injured, guys like immi, etc. Gotta make another game plan sonny.
As far as not paying an SS tax I am afraid most of the public would piss it awayn and not put inything into investment/retirement "vehicles".
You're absolutely right some wouldn't.
Some people are just money dumb.
Is it the rest of us responsibility to protect them from themselves?
It doesn't take long for the addict mentality to take hold.

As far as @Immigrant and other disabled yes, this country is plenty rich we shouldn't have a problem taking care of them. Most of them worked and paid in for a lot of years. They deserve to get taken care of. And the unfortunate who were born disabled or whatever we shouldn't have a problem taking care of them either. It's basic compassion and empathy.
 
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HipHugHer

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The problem comes when you let government administer shit like that.
They will invent so much bullshit and so many layers of that bullshit and so many bullshit positions with crazy high pensions for working half as long as a normal person would we end up paying 20 or 50 dollars for each 1 dollar that actually directly helps someone.
 

HipHugHer

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To be fair letting private interests handle it would fuck it just as much so you're kinda fucked either way.
 

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I'm still waiting for one of these goofballs to explain how social security is such a good thing while there's literally no money in it and we're robbing Peter to pay Paul.

Or more like robbing their grandkids.....
 
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wetwille

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To be fair letting private interests handle it would fuck it just as much so you're kinda fucked either way.
nah, they do much better. Market competition - you have choices and they know it.
Money dumb - even people who are good at saving & budgeting may not be good at investing. Personality takes over and it IS a bit of work - but hey, making the money was work too. E.g. My brother the attorney is the cheapest MF in the world and could squeeze a quarter from Lincoln's nose on a penny. Horrible at investing, dude has probably lost $500k since he & I set up self-directed IRAs 28 years ago. Every little downturn he bemoans how "I just lost thousands!" and sells at a loss. My personality doesn't see it that way at all, "I haven't sold, so this loss is theoretical. Do I hang tough or cut and run?" The other problem is many don't know how to take a decent profit and be happy with it . No, they have to have it all, like it's the casino - "LET IT RIDE!". FFS, set stop-limits and keep adjusting them as your stock goes up, have it sell automatically if a fall take your investment down X amount. Keep adjusting X upward with a margin for market fluctuations if the stock is going up. Pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered.
 

wetwille

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just buy the dip
Sure, try to buy the dip. But as it goes up, set a floating price point(stop-limit) to bail. E.g Bought at 5, goes to 8, set stop at 7, limit at 6.5. So, if it falls to 7, an offer to sell at 7 is issued but anybody offering 6.5 or better can have it. You don't add a stop only, as that adds to market churn because an offer to sell is recorded as soon as you set the stop - indicating to the market that some poor fucks will sell that low. Which drives it (usually) lower, fucking yourself in a small incremental fashion. Stop also has no "buffer" between your offer and buyers offers/bids. S/L provides more chance of a brief dip not resulting in a sale. Which is ok - shit stabilized and it's still one you want to keep.

Curious - do you partake in the market Mike?
 
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fbi now have the laptop
it's funny how nowhere in those emails does it mention that Joe Biden actually met with anyone

this is the same Trump team tactic from the last election, stir up a bunch of email bullshit in the weeks before the election
 

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Was reading a New York Times article talking about how voter registration among white people without college educations has sky rocketed in some of these battle ground states. Most of that voting block identifies themselves as Trump supporters. This thing may be far from over.
 

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Sure, try to buy the dip. But as it goes up, set a floating price point(stop-limit) to bail. E.g Bought at 5, goes to 8, set stop at 7, limit at 6.5. So, if it falls to 7, an offer to sell at 7 is issued but anybody offering 6.5 or better can have it. You don't add a stop only, as that adds to market churn because an offer to sell is recorded as soon as you set the stop - indicating to the market that some poor fucks will sell that low. Which drives it (usually) lower, fucking yourself in a small incremental fashion. Stop also has no "buffer" between your offer and buyers offers/bids. S/L provides more chance of a brief dip not resulting in a sale. Which is ok - shit stabilized and it's still one you want to keep.

Curious - do you partake in the market Mike?
I mostly just invest in a vanguard fund that follows the sp500. I just put 100 a month but if there's likes a 5% dip I'll put 500-1000 in.