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And how exactly is fair pay the same in every state when every state has a unique economy and CoL?
I'm game for the least getting more. I'd love to see minimum wage at $20. The worry I have is the doubling overnight aspect in combination with how that money is moved around... but hold on and I'll wave this magic wand I just pulled out of my ass and the world's problems will be solved.
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Let it go, as in not going there even though I did. I know the latest and greatest phone is expensive. I don’t think everyone who is “poor” is that way because they insist on having the latest and greatest phone. That’s an old man argument.
Medicaid and Medicare. I feel you are confusing the two. Medicaid is what poor folks qualify for as a supplement to existing “insurance”, or in the case of state health plans, the health plan for some people. Medicare is something people who have pay for with a premium, monthly, and it’s a lot cheaper than regular health insurance because there is no built in profit allowance.
I have Medicare, it costs $135 a month, taken right out of my SS. I have no choice in that. If I had other insurance, I could probably get by without it. I don’t qualify for Medicaid. I make $16 a month too much.
It seems like your arguments against a livable minimum wage all involve some kind of government supplemental help, like Yang’s UBI or Medicaid. I’m talking about a real livable wage.
Mean Mr. Mustard
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I haven’t read the entire thread yet but something else that seems to be overlooked when discussing wages is that if there was a REAL public option for healthcare and employers didn’t have to cover employees, they’d have a lot of freed capital to pay employees more.
Wouldn’t they?
Wouldn’t they?
In a state where a $15 an hour minimum wage ACTUALLY doubles the current minimum, too fuckin bad. Maybe they should’ve been paying a decent wage to begin with.
One example. A grocery store chain here. The minimum wage here is $10.75 (I think) and they paid their employees more than that. Then they implemented their own starting wage of $15 an hour.
There have been no layoffs, no “doubling of prices” LOL (you’ve been fed the low profit margin BS so long you believe it), and the store is strong.
Some places will suffer, sure, and that’s too bad. The same thing happens on a larger scale every day with larger business.
Isn’t this the same thing Giuliani took heat for a few months ago? Deflection.
Man. That screenshot is full of things that make a guy barf.
That's the thing, it's like 7.50 or something here too. I'm not even saying it shouldn't be raised but doubling all at once is stupid. People just getting more money is fantasy. Prices will rise, hours will be cut, some will be fired, places that would've hired another employee will not, etc.
If we're gonna have a minimum wage at all it should be done way more locally. Different areas of the same state still have far different costs of living. Having a blanket federal rate for costly cities and cornfield, USA is dumb too.
The problem I see happening with suddenly raising the minimum, or doubling it, would be the housing crisis larger cities are experiencing. Market pricing for housing is forcing people even on a “livable” wage to flee and commute, or be homeless, like many have resorted too.
I saw a teacher grading papers in her car that she lived in. That’s where we are headed everywhere if it isn’t done right.
But now that so few people have so much, and it would be oh so unfair to ask them to NOT do that, we’re just plain ol fucked.
Damn, you guys are right! Fuck it.
I saw a teacher grading papers in her car that she lived in. That’s where we are headed everywhere if it isn’t done right.
But now that so few people have so much, and it would be oh so unfair to ask them to NOT do that, we’re just plain ol fucked.
Damn, you guys are right! Fuck it.
it can work well if it's phased in over a two to three year period, rising every 6 months. it gives everyone time to adjust.
Valve1138
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Pretty sure I've been saying medicaid this whole time which is the one I was talking about, if not my bad. I also said that it's doable without it in SC and that even though it is minimum wage should still be increased, just not double over night. I'm not against increasing minimum wage. I'm not sure why people keep telling me I am. I'm a guy who dreams of setting a maximum wage as well as increased minimum wage. I'm also a guy who wants to think about how to get there and not just move numbers around and hope it works out.
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"civilian objects" is how they refer to us
Watch: ICE arrest thwarted after neighbors form human chain around father and son
"The family don't bother nobody, they work every day, they come home, the kids jump on their trampoline, it's just a community," one neighbor said.
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^^ this is fantastic. Proud of these people.
The danger is though that ICE starts charging anyone who helps with "conspiring to transport or harbor illegal immigrants".
Theyre already doing it in their "how much cruelty can we get away with" near the border zone
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Theyre already doing it in their "how much cruelty can we get away with" near the border zone
The Border Activist Charged for Providing Water to Migrants Could Still Face Legal Jeopardy
Scott Warren's jury deadlocked, but the Trump administration continues to weaponize the criminal justice system against humanitarian groups.
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Nobody mentioned it(I think) but doubling the minimum wage would immediatly put a squeeze on anyone working a cash job or anyone who works on a per job basis. Other shit will ratchet up but their wages won't. Who needs camps - we can starve them in their homes right here?
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