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smileynev
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ChikkenNoodul said:You know what I mean, the federal government
The feds stay out of local school matters, at least they did till the "less government is good government" republicans stepped in.
ChikkenNoodul said:You know what I mean, the federal government
HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHASarcasmo said:Being an American has nothing whatsoever to do with this argument. That concept exceeds and transcends children being able to wear the clothes of their choice to school, so don't even bring that into this trivial situation. But for the record, being an American has NEVER meant being able to do whatever you want. It's funny but disgusting how people seek to use that cliche to justify their own sense of entitlement these days. Younger generations have little clue about anything anymore.
Forced anything should be abhorrent to me? We live in a society of "forced things". Think about it. Laws, behavior, job responsibilities, utility rates, everything. Do you live in a shack out in the country away from oppressive society? I doubt it. And yet you give a fuck about kids you don't even know wearing uniforms to school?
But they're resposible for that disgusting orange cheesesmileynev said:The feds stay out of local school matters, at least they did till the "less government is good government" republicans stepped in.
ChikkenNoodul said:But they're resposible for that disgusting orange cheese
Well I wouldn't know how it compares with the haute cuisine at a gas stationsmileynev said:hmmm, don't know if I've ever had a disgusting cheese.
ChikkenNoodul said:HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Chances are I'm older than you
Sense of entitlement? HAAHAHAHAHAHAHA
That refers to the welfare leeches and people looking for forced equality, not to me there buddy.
And yes, the founding fathers started this country so THEY could do what they wanted without being told they couldn't.
Exactly, things are forced on us that should not be. Most laws have no just purpose. But some of what you mention is not forced, job responsibilities are a choice - those aren't forced, you can avoid utility rates - that's a choice too, behavior - as long as you're not harming someone else - that's not 'forced' per se.
And yes, I do own a 3,200 square foot 'shack' in the country, away from oppressive society.
Yes, but if ALL PUBLIC schools have uniforms, then that is forced. Because unless you are rich or have free time, public school is where the kids go.Sarcasmo said:The things I mentioned are forced in the same way that a school requiring school uniforms would be forced. Your pointing that out proves you understand my point. If you don't like the uniforms, find another school. There's nothing forced about it.
And the founding fathers didn't establish our country in order to do whatever they wanted. That's breaking it down to an entirely too simple degree and missing the point entirely. It was a lot more complicated and philosophical than merely wanting to be able to pee on someone without going to jail. (Though I admit I don't know if it WAS illegal to pee on someone in England at the time.)
And I've got you beat at 4,800 square feet, so my penis is still bigger.
Sarcasmo said:The things I mentioned are forced in the same way that a school requiring school uniforms would be forced. Your pointing that out proves you understand my point. If you don't like the uniforms, find another school. There's nothing forced about it.
And the founding fathers didn't establish our country in order to do whatever they wanted. That's breaking it down to an entirely too simple degree and missing the point entirely. It was a lot more complicated and philosophical than merely wanting to be able to pee on someone without going to jail. (Though I admit I don't know if it WAS illegal to pee on someone in England at the time.)
And I've got you beat at 4,800 square feet, so my penis is still bigger.
ChikkenNoodul said:Oh, but do you have 100 acres of land with a private pond?
smileynev said:I thought you were still in school?
Sarcasmo said:Me? God no. I'm 28 and have a kid of my own.
Sarcasmo said:If by "100 acres of land with a private pond" you mean "a 30-foot strip of Bermuda grass with a birdbath", then yes, yes I do.
Sarcasmo said:Speak for yourself. Many kids actually attend school to learn something, and many take things other than socialization skills with them when they graduate. Public school may have been a joke to you, but to them it's serious business (much like the internet) and their grades are key to getting into the universities they want.
And quite frankly, if some asshat or a collection of asshats disrupt the learning experience they should be removed from the equation. Schools are, after all, places of learning by definition. Uniforms don't equate them to military institutions, and survey after survey after survey of kids who wear uniforms to school show they actually prefer them and that they relieve stress and enable them to focus on what matters.
And I happen to have gone to public school, so I can't comment on whether homeschooling works.