It's some offshoot of the "FREE SPEECH fuck-off" (this position is indefensible but it isn't illegal for me to say it, therefore it is justified)
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With enough political/social will (yep, we're fucked) this could (have) all be(en) tamped down in 4-6 weeks of HARD lockdown.
That's what's truly frustrating. We could go all rah rah USA let's do something great and just get it done.
Petunia
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he’s 14
he cannot her his vaxx til sept because the doctor caught him up with all his other shots this summer and he needs to wait as per the CDC + WHO
There is no data on it, so its not recommended. It's almost certainly fine, but guessing isn't how science works.
edit: OH, I see @Domon's reply and realize I didn't read the question properly.
But generally still high enough to prevent infection, and still about as perfect as you can get against hospitalization and death.
My BIL just got back from 18 months in Taiwan. I was surprised to hear from him that *many* of the people there also stopped being serious about masking up after 2-3 months. Once the fines stopped, people stopped wearing them.
Not really. CV19 will be with us for the next 100+ years, unless you can come up with a plan to separate every human on the planet from every other one for 3-4 weeks. Good luck!
yeah, its roughly 1 in 100 for reinfection, and 1 in 10,000 for death in the fully vaccinated.
its way better than unvaxxed though for sure. 1 in 10,000 is about on par with statistics from dying from a bad thunderstorm. Way less common than say ... dying from riding a bike, which is 1 in 3000
So you're saying once infected, one out of 100 fully vaccinated people die?
You sure about that?yeah... ive been looking for the source i read since that. You're right, it doesnt seem right.
It was an infographic, a big green grid of squares with a single red square indicating infection rate, then a that single red square split into a big grid, with a single yellow square indicating deaths.
Im thinking they mighta fucked it up and i didnt fact check
It was an infographic, a big green grid of squares with a single red square indicating infection rate, then a that single red square split into a big grid, with a single yellow square indicating deaths.
Im thinking they mighta fucked it up and i didnt fact check
COVID-19 Breakthrough Case Investigations and Reporting | CDC
Information and resources to help public health departments and laboratories investigate and report COVID-19 vaccine breakthrough cases.
According to this, it seems that if you get infected, the vaccine doesn't seem to help at all (1 in 5 die). Since almost all breakthroughs are from people over 65, I'd assume we're looking at people who didn't mount a proper immune response to the vaccine.
Jehannum
Puts the "pro" in procrastination
No, he's a man with a paper ass.So you're saying once infected, one out of 100 fully vaccinated people die?
According to the CDC, as of 7/19, 161 million people have been fully vaccinated in America. Out of this population there have been 5,601 breakthrough cases that have resulted in hospitalization (or .003%) of vaccinated people. Of the serious breakthrough cases that have occurred 1,141 have resulted in death (or .0007%).
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html
Jehannum
Puts the "pro" in procrastination
That's the hospitalized population. There isn't any data on breakthrough infections that don't require hospitalization that the CDC has released.COVID-19 Breakthrough Case Investigations and Reporting | CDC
Information and resources to help public health departments and laboratories investigate and report COVID-19 vaccine breakthrough cases.www.cdc.gov
According to this, it seems that if you get infected, the vaccine doesn't seem to help at all (1 in 5 die). Since almost all breakthroughs are from people over 65, I'd assume we're looking at people who didn't mount a proper immune response to the vaccine.
Yes, but from the stats on that page its interesting that if you get infected, the vaccine seems to not matter.
And then what would happen after we came out of your 4-6 weeks of HARD lockdown? The same thing that is happening now...
Jehannum
Puts the "pro" in procrastination
No, it's not that interesting, because that isn't a report of all cases of breakthrough infection. It's a report of all cases of breakthrough infection that involved hospitalization or death.
What is interesting is that of the 6000 reported fatal or hospitalized "breakthrough" cases reported to the CDC, 74% of them were people >= 65 years old.