[Article] Article: raw feeding

From my own googling:

Studies done decades ago cite diets high in protein as the cause of kidney failure in dogs. It is true the low quality protein can cause kidney damage. Low quality protein generates large amounts of waste when it is processed by the liver. This leaves the kidneys to clean up, leading to severe kidney problems. High quality protein, such as real, raw chicken, does not generate high amounts of waste, putting much less stress on the kidneys. According to About.com, six chicken wings have up to 34 grams of protein; a 6oz piece of breast meat can have almost 40. Amino acids, which make up proteins, are important building blocks for your dog's body. So a diet high in good quality protein helps your dog lead a healthier life.
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Chicken fat contains vitamins A, D, and E. Vitamin A helps with vision and coat health, vitamin D works with calcium and phosphorus to promote strong bones and teeth, and vitamin E acts as an antioxidant, which is essential for proper reproduction and is one factor in preventing cancer.

Not only does chicken contain good protein and many essential vitamins and minerals, the act of eating chicken helps keep teeth clean. The chewing of chicken bones will also develop the muscles in the face, jaw, and neck.
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http://voices.yahoo.com/nutritional-benefits-feeding-dog-raw-chicken-10824013.html

So overall, this study shows that raw diets are highly digestible (which is not surprising, but of questionable importance), that short-term feeding of them under controlled circumstances doesn’t seem to have any negative effects or any benefits unless one considers less poop an important benefit or buys into the still unproven health benefits of prebiotics. There is nothing wrong with studying the variables this project looked at, of course, but it doesn’t have much direct bearing on the controversy over feeding dogs and cats raw diets.
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http://skeptvet.com/Blog/2012/07/new-study-on-raw-diets-for-dogs-adds-little-to-ongoing-debate/

ut one must realize that there is NO evidence whatsoever to prove that kibbled, processed foods are good for your pets. The only research that has been done into processed foods was performed to see a) if dogs could be fed a grain-based food, b) if dogs could survive acceptably on these processed foods for a short period of time, c) if X brand of food can do such-and-such for the dog (help with kidney disease, help with diabetes, help with obesity), and d) if X brand of food is "better" (more palatable, better liked, less total stool volume, etc.) than Y brand of food. No research has been done to determine the long-term effects of feeding kibble, nor to determine if it is actually healthy for your dog (it is just assumed healthy because it has passed a 6 month feeding trial, and then manufacturers falsely advertise their product as healthy.).

But as for raw diets: one million years of evolution apparently is not enough evidence for those citing lack of research and lack of studies in scientific literature.
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http://rawfed.com/myths/research.html

I'll get back to you on anything other people bring to my attention Zac.
 
Mr. Asa said:
My opinion is that I'm fucking tired of reading this shit all over the forum and I would like you to stop preaching or only preach in one thread.

Of a secondary nature, I am of the opinion that I have met some horrible vets that have given me and my family horrible advice in regards to a diverse number of animals. I am also of the opinion that when their pets are involved people tend to listen to someone that reflects their beliefs.
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Agreed on both points, but if people stopped bringing this shit up I wouldn't have to keep replying to it? It is, believe it or not, quite tiring arguing on the back foot constantly. And yes on vets. I love my vet, she's great and she listens to my concerns, we don't talk about diet though so I've no idea if she shares my belief at all. :lol:
 
Nemesi said:
Agreed on both points, but if people stopped bringing this shit up I wouldn't have to keep replying to it? It is, believe it or not, quite tiring arguing on the back foot constantly. And yes on vets. I love my vet, she's great and she listens to my concerns, we don't talk about diet though so I've no idea if she shares my belief at all. :lol:
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Quote them and reply to their posts in this thread.
 
Nemesi said:
Agreed on both points, but if people stopped bringing this shit up I wouldn't have to keep replying to it? It is, believe it or not, quite tiring arguing on the back foot constantly. And yes on vets. I love my vet, she's great and she listens to my concerns, we don't talk about diet though so I've no idea if she shares my belief at all. :lol:
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But the majority of the time, you are the one that brings it up...
 
The other problem that's likely to evolve is comparing the raw diet to some cheap Purina shit versus some fucking expensive Blue Buffalo/Halo food. There is a vast difference between feeding your animal mostly corn to feeding them mostly meat.
 
fly said:
The other problem that's likely to evolve is comparing the raw diet to some cheap Purina shit versus some fucking expensive Blue Buffalo/Halo food. There is a vast difference between feeding your animal mostly corn to feeding them mostly meat.
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Most definitely. I'd be interested in what percentage of people feed shitty stuff vs good quality stuff. I've no doubt at all that if a dog on shite is healthy and settles on raw they'll be healthier on that, but between raw and a great quality commercial food I can't imagine there being much difference. Considering most people seem to buy food from the supermarkets instead of specialist pet shops I suspect the majority of dogs are fed on complete shite though. Also raw feeding can be cheap as shit in comparison to a good commercial food, so if they're equal (if) it's a no brainer.
 
Mr. Asa said:
You might be surprised at how many supermarkets carry good brands now.


Sidenote, Luna just let out a burp that I would be proud of.
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None of ours sadly. Our pet food aisle is woeful. Nothing costs more than like £4 for a bag, a good kibble costs like £20 or so from a pet store. All the brands we have are Bakers (has cancer inducing ingredients that are banned for humans), Pedigree (complete shite) and the odd thing that looks fancy but is rubbish. I do browse because I buy grain free treats for her once a month or so from there.
 
CletusJones said:
Meat! I watched an episode of dirty jobs where mike Rowe used a band saw to cut up unfit for human consumption meats.
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band saws were originally manufactured for cutting meat. And any construction bandsaw will do an excellent job of it with the right blade
 
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