WTF The Nike Fuelband - or Why the Mayans Should Have Been Right

Duke said:
They are, but at the time I was honestly looking to find someone to settle down with (even more strongly than now), and when I saw their parenting skills, I was all like 'hell no am I running the risk of her raising my kids'. And since I'm not the babbydaddy, or really involved with the caregiving at that point, saying 'you shouldn't do that' ain't my place. So, I moved on. Quickly.
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arent parenting skills something you develop? Im not great with kids, i fully admit that, but i figure ill learn as i go whenever i have my own.
 
Mr. Asa said:
What do you mean by parenting skills? Which part of being a parent?
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Not entirely sure.... everything i guess.

Maybe for people who grew up with younger siblings its easier, as they had to take care of them, and learned some similar skills there.
 
Fat Melissa said:
I love how non breeders/cat fuckers/dog fuckers want to school actual breeders about parenting.
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You keep implying that there is a genetic switch that gets thrown when you have a kid, and afterwards you are a better parent than someone who does not have a kid.

I have never said that I was a better parent than anyone here, I have said that I know more about behavior than some people here solely because of my proximity to it. The fact that there are so many foster children out there shows that there are horrible parents out there.
There are people out there that see children for one day a week that are better parents than those children's biological parents.
 
Fat Melissa said:
I love how non breeders/cat fuckers/dog fuckers want to school actual breeders about parenting.
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I don't want to, nor would any parent even listen to me if I did, and rightly so. I don't have kids.

That doesn't mean existing parents are perfect. When I see a mom open slap a kid across the face because he was bouncing in place in his seat, that's a warning sign to me. I'm smart enough to give the existing parent the benefit of the doubt, but for 1, it's obvious that there are some people in the world who should not be parents, 2) no one is perfect at parenting, and 3) it's not like I'm blissfully unaware of what it takes to raise a child.
 
Duke said:
I don't want to, nor would any parent even listen to me if I did, and rightly so. I don't have kids.

That doesn't mean existing parents are perfect. When I see a mom open slap a kid across the face because he was bouncing in place in his seat, that's a warning sign to me. I'm smart enough to give the existing parent the benefit of the doubt, but for 1, it's obvious that there are some people in the world who should not be parents, 2) no one is perfect at parenting, and 3) it's not like I'm blissfully unaware of what it takes to raise a child.
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Yup.
My best friend dated a single mother for a year or so, Maddy was about 3. Within 4-6 months he was that little girl's father, she loved him and he loved her, but he made sure she didn't get out of line without ever laying a finger on her. He is a natural father, and his son (4) is one of the cutest, well behaved children I have met (although I do wonder how he is going to do with a little girl as he now has a 3 month old daughter).
 
Amstel said:
There is clearly a general rule (not 100%) that the desk jockey and front line fighter have a different idea on how things get done on the front line.
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Yet there is no rule about which of those will be more correct.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but there's nothing that says that opinion is valid.
 
All kids are different, theres no one way to do it.
I can handle my kid just fine, but dealing with my brothers kids not so much.
What works for one parent isnt necessarily going to work for another.
My general thought is that if the kid(s) are happy and healthy, then youre on the right track.
 
Mr. Asa said:
Yet there is no rule about which of those will be more correct. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but there's nothing that says that opinion is valid.
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And you could apply your rule when you have an experienced contractor come out to estimate work you need done and then get an estimate from someone who's got zero experience. -The question is, Who's input is more valuable?
 
APRIL said:
Everyone thinks they are a great parent even those with kids. :rolleyes:
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Nobody thinks they're bad at anything. :rolleyes:

In reality everyone has bad days and nobody's superparent.

However, being in the trenches you realize sometimes things have to be done to get by; someone not in the trenches wouldn't be able to do/justify/understand those things.
 
Amstel said:
And you could apply your rule when you have an experienced contractor come out to estimate work you need done and then get an estimate from someone who's got zero experience. -The question is, Who's input is more valuable?
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There is a significant difference in raising small humans and talking to a contractor. As far as I know no one gets certified to be a parent (although sometimes I think they damn sure should.)

However what happens when you're talking about a parent who has never had children before and a child psychologist or behaviorist who has no children of their own but has spent the past 25 years working intimately with children? In that case I'm pretty sure that the desk jockey would have a better grip on what the child needs than the front line fighter.
 
I'm not saying that it is always as cut and dried as that, but I am saying that someone putting out a blanket statement of "people who don't have kids should shut the fuck up about how to raise kids" is just plain naive.
 
Mr. Asa said:
There is a significant difference in raising small humans and talking to a contractor. As far as I know no one gets certified to be a parent (although sometimes I think they damn sure should.) However what happens when you're talking about a parent who has never had children before and a child psychologist or behaviorist who has no children of their own but has spent the past 25 years working intimately with children? In that case I'm pretty sure that the desk jockey would have a better grip on what the child needs than the front line fighter.
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does not coincide with:
Mr. Asa said:
Yet there is no rule about which of those will be more correct. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but there's nothing that says that opinion is valid.
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