Thread NYC Bans smoking in public outdoor places
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I'm okay with banning it indoors, although I really do think it should be the right of the property owner to make that call.
But banning it outside?
get the fuck off, that's some serious bullshit.
But banning it outside?
get the fuck off, that's some serious bullshit.
I hope this mindset is what this thread is full of. If not, the lot of you are fucking idiots.
The only outdoor bans I've encountered before have been an extension of indoor bans. For example, an outdoor patio seating area of a restaurant, or a ban on smoking within 20 feet of a building entrance. Of course, in NYC, a ban on smoking within 20 feet of a building entrance is almost a 100% ban citywide. Especially if you can also ban it within public parks on the basis of preventing cigarette butt litter.
people littering their cigarette butts on highways is another reason i'm fine with it being banned.
Syrup Beaver
pants log
could be, but they never are. think it'd be easy to roll in the $500 fines following people with their windows cracked.
It's nice to be able to go out drinking and not coming home smelling like an ash tray and being able to see people inside of bars without all the smoke.
its equally awesome to be able to go eat somewhere at lunch and not smell like smoke the rest of the day at work.
i've said it here before but i thought it was a dumb law when they passed no smoking in businesses in kansas, but it's been awesome ever since they have. there's a definite difference in the smoke smell and a lot of restaurants on the missouri side have gone to non smoking voluntarily now because they can't compete with people going to kansas to eat instead to avoid the ashtray smell.
I totally agree... but it still should be the right of the business owner to make that decision. I would boycott every business that had smoke... bleh.
Yeah, its also nice not having to deal with screaming kids, Jews, the homeless, and old people at resturants. However, its JUST as wrong to infringe on their rights simply for your comfort.
eileenbunny
Druish Princess
My dad is the only person I've ever known to get a ticket for throwing his cigarette out of his car window. He was super pissed too.
I can agree with these bans as I've had a problem leaving a building more than once because of having to walk through the cloud at the entrance. Still, I doubt walking through that crowd is causing me any permanent damage and the smell doesn't really stick to me in that small amount of time, so that makes me wonder when people became so averse to smelling bad things. Next they are going to ban farting in public. Breathing all this methane is giving me a headache! We should probably ban cows too. And whomever said cars is right, lets ban them, and don't forget buses and airplanes and factories and plants I don't like the smell of in the spring, and for that fact, maybe we should ban pollen producing things because they make Dan awful sick for 3/4 of the year. You people planting grass in your yard are killing my husband! Shame on you!
This I do agree with, but I agree that it should be the right of the establishment to choose. I get to choose whether or not to go to bars that allow smoking (well I used to, Maryland has a smoking ban too, even an outdoor in public places one).
Is it really a question of comfort or is it health. Isn't it pretty proven that someone smoking a cigarette next to you can cause you to get cancer? I agree with you, but I don't think it's comfort that is brought into question here. Your rights end at the end of your nose.
As an ex-smoker I can see both sides of the coin here. I don't want to smoke anymore, and I'm carrying a child that I don't want to smoke, but that doesn't mean I don't think other people should have to stop smoking. Heck, I still let people smoke in my car since it stinks anyway. I can see the health risks for others though. For me, it's not about smell, although I don't like smelling like an ashtray anymore, it's about not doing something extra to get cancer. Having to choose to stay home because you might be exposed to high levels of smoke in your surroundings kinda sucks. I wish it didn't have to be about laws though. I wish it were about people being considerate of other people.
For example, when we were in DC a few months ago, Liam smoked while we walked around, but he wasn't blowing it in anyone's face. He was being respectful. I felt bad when he had to go outside by himself at bars though. It's kind of isolating, but it was his choice. When I smoked it was my choice and I tried to be considerate of others in that I understood it wasn't their choice inside or outside.
Yes and it's disgusting. My whole suitcase of clothes reeked and my car was nasty for quite a few days, even with the windows down.
This is why I loved driving through WV. Littering was a $25000 fine. There wasn't shit on the roads anywhere.
