Yes but punishing a child is not the equivalent of raising one. Nor have either of us done it on our own with our own children like SRC is doing. Your parents raised you and your brothers, not you. You were an older brother, not a parent.
Little bast ard SPIT on me !!
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Yes but punishing a child is not the equivalent of raising one. Nor have either of us done it on our own with our own children like SRC is doing. Your parents raised you and your brothers, not you. You were an older brother, not a parent.
Yes but punishing a child is not the equivalent of raising one. Nor have either of us done it on our own with our own children like SRC is doing. Your parents raised you and your brothers, not you. You were an older brother, not a parent.
Where did I tell her how to raise it?
I said it's her responsibility.
Learn to read.
Yeah, you never tell my mom you're bored. Youll be cleaning bathrooms for a year.
My mom used to say that all the time too. I cleaned so many toilets.
Yes, it is my responsibility .. one that I am handling the best way I've found possible. And while it is my responsibility it is also the schools responsibility as well. While they are on school property they are in charge of our children.
If the things they are doing to the children while at school at contributing or causing conflicts leading the children to act a certain way .. that is not a parents fault.
You will see, if you ever produce children of your own, that when a child goes to school and this sort of thing happens it's hard to control, from a parental point of view. At that point it is somewhat out of a parents hand. A parent can only control what happens at home, unless you are a stay at home parent who can go sit in a classroom and monitor things going on in a classroom.
I love how people who don't have kids are so quick to offer stringent advice to people who have been raising a child for over 10 years. That's rich.
Tormenting your siblings at home doesn't mean a hill of squat compared to parenting.
If my son had a brother and he told him to do that stuff, and he told him he could suck his dick there isn't shit he could do about it until I got home. He'd get his butt whupped when I got home for cursing, but I wouldn't get onto him for not doing some bullshit chores his older brother came up with to get him out of his hair.
Now if I told him to do that stuff and he either didn't do it or said that to me, I would beat the snot out of him, and remove all priviledges he had or ever hoped to have for the next year.
A sibling doesn't have the power to do that. Neither does a teacher. Kids realize this and sometimes they use it to their advantage.
We all break rules. I feel confident in saying I bet most of us got in trouble at school (some more than others I'd imagine) .. you think back and find out WHY you did anything you did in school, knowing it was wrong and knowing you could/would get in trouble for it at school AND at home.
The reason is going to be .. because you THOUGHT you might not get caught or you might get away with it. Kids think they are smarter than adults .. that doesn't mean they are. That's why they will do things at school they won't do at home .. I bet you did things at school you would have NEVER attempted to do at home.
If the things they are doing to the children while at school at contributing or causing conflicts leading the children to act a certain way .. that is not a parents fault.
You will see, if you ever produce children of your own, that when a child goes to school and this sort of thing happens it's hard to control, from a parental point of view. At that point it is somewhat out of a parents hand. A parent can only control what happens at home, unless you are a stay at home parent who can go sit in a classroom and monitor things going on in a classroom.
I love how people who don't have kids are so quick to offer stringent advice to people who have been raising a child for over 10 years. That's rich.
Tormenting your siblings at home doesn't mean a hill of squat compared to parenting.
If my son had a brother and he told him to do that stuff, and he told him he could suck his dick there isn't shit he could do about it until I got home. He'd get his butt whupped when I got home for cursing, but I wouldn't get onto him for not doing some bullshit chores his older brother came up with to get him out of his hair.
Now if I told him to do that stuff and he either didn't do it or said that to me, I would beat the snot out of him, and remove all priviledges he had or ever hoped to have for the next year.
A sibling doesn't have the power to do that. Neither does a teacher. Kids realize this and sometimes they use it to their advantage.
We all break rules. I feel confident in saying I bet most of us got in trouble at school (some more than others I'd imagine) .. you think back and find out WHY you did anything you did in school, knowing it was wrong and knowing you could/would get in trouble for it at school AND at home.
The reason is going to be .. because you THOUGHT you might not get caught or you might get away with it. Kids think they are smarter than adults .. that doesn't mean they are. That's why they will do things at school they won't do at home .. I bet you did things at school you would have NEVER attempted to do at home.
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No one is telling you how to raise your thing. It was merely pointed out that anytime anyone ever says anything vaguely related to children being the final responsibility of their parents we have to listen to you type 5 paragraphs of gibberish about how it isnt your fault your kid is a little psycho.
I have got that same excuse from hundreds of people while working in stores etc. I dont care if your children are retarded, hungry, tired, or catatonic. It is your responsibility to take care of them no matter where they are.
I dont care how you do it. I just dont want to deal with your whiny, bitchy, loud, children and goddamn I dont want to pay for them.
I have got that same excuse from hundreds of people while working in stores etc. I dont care if your children are retarded, hungry, tired, or catatonic. It is your responsibility to take care of them no matter where they are.
I dont care how you do it. I just dont want to deal with your whiny, bitchy, loud, children and goddamn I dont want to pay for them.
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I had/have ADD. I grew out of most of it at 14. Could not take ritilin or any other drug as it made me either sleepy or very very cranky. I simply focued on certian outlets like reading and science and a wonderful few years in ROTC and I straightened right out.
then again before that I bounced from school to school letting my smart mouth get me beat up over and over again till the school kicked me out.
Ahh fun times...oh wait not.
Ahh fun times...oh wait not.
Exactly. Kids just need some good militant discipline.
You need to shut your fucking mouth. You can call me anything you want and I could give a shit less. But you just disrespected my child and there was no sense in it. Fucking asshole.
That's your portrayal:
http://uselessforums.com/showpost.php?p=343891&postcount=467
http://uselessforums.com/showpost.php?p=344089&postcount=482
Not including the posts in this thread.
I vote to bring her back. PLEASE!
A parent must send a child to school prepared to learn and prepared to conduct themselves in a manner conducive to learning. In all things a parent must involve themselves fully in their child's life. It is a hard job because in today's world you cannot expect any support from an outside source. It is just that simple. In today's world the term responsibility means nothing more than identifying a source of blame when something goes wrong... and what good is that. So, we must ask ourselves who has the ability to prepare a child for learning? Only the parent can do that.
(In other threads I have already stated my experience in such matters, so I will not do that here.)
(In other threads I have already stated my experience in such matters, so I will not do that here.)
Dharma1521
Soooo do I look as young as I look?
We forum members do not have a voting option.
FG was banned from a thread as well. Ahh good times.
A parent must send a child to school prepared to learn and prepared to conduct themselves in a manner conducive to learning. In all things a parent must involve themselves fully in their child's life. It is a hard job because in today's world you cannot expect any support from an outside source. It is just that simple. In today's world the term responsibility means nothing more than identifying a source of blame when something goes wrong... and what good is that. So, we must ask ourselves who has the ability to prepare a child for learning? Only the parent can do that.
(In other threads I have already stated my experience in such matters, so I will not do that here.)
lmao.. yeah man, it's all about who's "fault" it is.. that's what equals responsibility..
uh.. i won't remem all that was typed.. all the opinions expressed.. but, a couple things..
first off, isn't it ironic that the kid i originally talked about is "out of area".. was just walking the kids to PE and saw him out wandering the halls.. back in my B.S. days I'm sure I would have gotten the call, "_______ is out of area".. at which time it was my responsibility to find him, get him either back to class, the office, or our quiet room. Sometimes kids come willfully, sometimes you have to physically grab them.. gently of course, and march them to one of the above spots.. just found it ironic that he was out just wandering.. Sooooooo many kids are disruptive for task avoidance.. they're not good at reading and so every day when reading time comes they act out, "leave area", or something, just so their shortcomings aren't on display.. their lack of achievement i will attribute to both parental involvement as well as the schools.. different discussion IMO..
BUT.. uh.. where was i going.. sorry to hear about your school experience SRC.. (think i've got the names right, sorry if not).. hearing that your kid isn't getting the support he needs, isn't operating under a "system" that helps him instead of harms him is sad to hear.. the card system isn't necc a bad thing if used correctly.. depending on the grade level, they can be very effective.. they're concrete reminders to act appropriately, and as we say, "make good choices".. but they certainly don't work for everybody.. the art sub the other day had her "check system" (check for warning, two for call home, 3 is referral, etc) and one of my lovelies got written up after telling her "give me 20 checks, i don't care".. so, not always effective. . it's good to hear you're being proactive as I agree there are some ineffective teachers out there.. MOST are there for the right reasons and sincerely want your kid to be successful.. SOME are burnt out, been doing it too long, not long enough, etc.. like any other profession there are good ones and bad ones.. but any teacher should be open to advice from the parent as to how to help their kid function and achieve at the highest level.. and if not, try the principal.. (not principle, BTW.. just f'n with ya')
this thread reminded me though about an experience i had as the B.S... dunno if yall are familiar, but there's a program where if your kids are diagnosed as having a "disability" they can get a check from the gov't.. yep, your hard earned tax dollars goin' to a family supposedly for psychologists and related programs.. well, this one mom has a kid in K and a kid in First grade.. they act out almost daily.. the mom has hit us with the paperwork (a lot of it) and wants us to "get him some services".. ALL SHE'S HAD TO DO is bring the packet down to the school, WE do all the work, and SHE gets a check.. she was up in the office a few weeks ago talkin' about "The system has let me down. We need some services" (read: gubment check).. THEY'RE NOT THE SYSTEM'S KIDS, THEY'RE YOURS!!!!!!!!!! honestly, i may get out of education in the coming year or two.. (anybody hiring?? ) hearing this lady with this bs story or whatever is disheartening.. her kids need some parental discipline.. when their grandpa came in and sat with us (grandpa about 40) he had those two boys acting just fine..
In regards to the above program, there was a kid one time in another class who used to come serve timeout in my room.. i was like, what's up with you? you don't have no problem all day and then you go to trippin'.. kid told me, and I quote, "My momma told me to act out everyday after lunch".. lookin for that check.. bugs me.. bad.. maybe off topic, but just something we deal with .. daily.. maybe some of yall heard that story about the guy out in seattle i believe, who had acted retarded his whole life, rec'd these same disability checks, but got a traffic ticket at 20 or something and was just fine sittin up in the courtroom.. 20 years on the public's taxes..
in closing.. lmao.. we as teachers need parental support.. without it, more and more kids are coming to view us as just some person.. like the rec center attendant.. to be listened to, respectful of, and "obeyed" when it suits 'em..