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Drivers for the unionized delivery service (not usps) make six figures with a pension and free health insurance, so.


Minimum wage should be ~$20/hr.
South Carolina would perish at 20 bucks. If you can’t live on 15 an hour, try wanting less.
 
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Not at all. The money is there, it's just being sucked up by the takers (the top).
Right, if you can get the top to do it I’d agree. I doubt you can. But I would like to see minimum wage brackets whether that is based on profit of number of employees or maybe both.
 
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Money shouldn't exist.
What’s to stop the US from just creating more money. I get that it devalues the dollar, but it would devalue it in the bottom’s favor. Reason I’m asking is, I do t know how that affects international trade. Probably poorly.

While I’m on it, the government is extra dumb for not having their own debit cards. We’ve been paying a private company to make money for a long time. We now have an easy solution for taking a lot of that profit burden off of the American people. We should take it.
 
Oregon benefit was about $375 plus the fed threw in $600 weekly.

I know! He was in Washington and it was the same as Oregon. My brother claimed that it was a right wing phony argument but my buddy said “I’m making a $1000 a week to stay home and play Star Trek on my phone, why would I want to work? Most of my brother’s acquaintances make more than that so he had trouble relating to my friend”s attitude.

I kind of agree with my brother about one thing. Many people want to work and contribute to society, even if it means making slightly less than sitting around, but when you’re used to taking home $500 a week at best, and you’re suddenly making double that, who would want to go back to work?.
 
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Drivers for the unionized delivery service (not usps) make six figures with a pension and free health insurance, so.


Minimum wage should be ~$20/hr.
Dock workers for the major truck lines in this area start at around $20 an hour. The drivers make a lot more than that, both union and non union.
 
What’s to stop the US from just creating more money. I get that it devalues the dollar, but it would devalue it in the bottom’s favor. Reason I’m asking is, I do t know how that affects international trade. Probably poorly.

While I’m on it, the government is extra dumb for not having their own debit cards. We’ve been paying a private company to make money for a long time. We now have an easy solution for taking a lot of that profit burden off of the American people. We should take it.
The we who are getting that profit like things as they are.

I think @Jehannum was alluding to something else?
 
Drivers for the unionized delivery service (not usps) make six figures with a pension and free health insurance, so.


Minimum wage should be ~$20/hr.
If minimum wage went up to $20/hr, prices would have to go up to cover those costs. Guess who those price increases are going to hurt most? You guessed it, the people making 'only' $20/hr.
 
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This whole $15/hr minimum wage talking point is dumb as fuck.

No consideration for cost of living.

No consideration for small business that legitimately can’t afford it.

You‘re barely above water here on $15/hr.
If Biden’s plan to increase minimum wage slowly over time took effect it would put SC on par for what it should be by the time it gets there. Seeing as SC needs one of the lowest minimum wage amounts it should put almost every other state lower than what it should be. That’s just accounting for inflation, not cost of living. The alternative is no minimum wage or effectively no minimum wage if it stays the same. It’s pretty hard to even find a minimum wage job in SC anymore. If you are working for minimum wage you are just stupid for not just getting a job at Walmart or Taco Bell that pays $4-5 over minimum wage starting out.

The cost of living is a big deal. That’s why a national minimum wage is kind of pointless, but it does force states like mine, who would do away with minimum wage if they could, to not be able to.

If small businesses can’t pay a fair wage they shouldn’t be in business anyway. But there are always dumb people who will work for minimum wage when there’s a plethora of better paying jobs out there


The other way to get people a fair wage is through taxation. If you truly want a fair distribution of wealth this is the only way to do it. The big question that everyone has a different answer for is what fair distribution is. Some say none, but if we want our economy to function well that’s not a very smart way to do it. If you are rich it doesn’t matter. If you are lower middle class it does.

It all comes down to whether it’s okay to take from the rich to give to the poor. And then how much is okay to take.

Personally I think the solution is a combination of universal health care (because it makes quitting a job to find a better one or holding out for a better one way easier) and education (because people need to be taught to not take shitty paying jobs, which is hard to do when you are afraid you will die for not taking any job at all) and there is the reasoning for UBI, but really it only needs to be free food, shelter, and health care. Just give those things to every one whatever they make and the masses gain the ability to manipulate the market almost as much as the rich do.
 
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This whole $15/hr minimum wage talking point is dumb as fuck.

No consideration for cost of living.

No consideration for small business that legitimately can’t afford it.

You‘re barely above water here on $15/hr.
It's almost as if the market will figure it out. No matter how much your heart bleeds, there will always be poor people.
 
It's almost as if the market will figure it out. No matter how much your heart bleeds, there will always be poor people.
Except the market doesn’t figure it out. The wealthy do, a small portion of the market. If you take a look into the past poverty as decreased greatly for developed nations who have manipulated the market. You can work minimum wage and still buy a diamond and not starve. That has everything to do with market manipulation. History as shown us that the majority benefit from wealth distribution. If you want the market to work its self out you will have to do away with government completely because paying government employees is a form of wealth distribution. I hope you’ve got a green thumb.

History has also shown us that greater wealth distribution has worked better for us. Take a look at the 50s. We were taxing the ever loving crap out of the wealthy back then and you could easily work a “low” paying job, pay for college, buy a car, buy a house, all before the age of 25.
 
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