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They're "competitive" with fedex, which doesn't compensate right either.

Last I checked, that type of labor is the most stagnant of all low-wage unskilled jobs. I hired a guy in 1995 for $15 and hour starting wage as a delivery driver at a cross dock with 40+ drivers and many years (2014) and many jobs later, he got hired at a warehouse for the exact same wage.
 
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Last I checked, that type of labor is the most stagnant of all low-wage unskilled jobs. I hired a guy in 1995 for $15 and hour starting wage as a delivery driver at a cross dock with 40+ drivers and many years (2014) and many jobs later, he got hired at a warehouse for the exact same wage.
They need unions.

I worked in a fab shop ~2012, there was a welder who was making $18/hr in the 80s and was now making $15/hr.

But everything is fine as long as we can still cheaply consume without needing too much patience.
 
They need unions.

I worked in a fab shop ~2012, there was a welder who was making $18/hr in the 80s and was now making $15/hr.

But everything is fine as long as we can still cheaply consume without needing too much patience.

Unions, ah yes. I remember being in three at separate times of course. They’re nearly impossible to set a business unionized here. The place I mentioned I had hired the guy at tried to go Union after I left and instead, the company gave everyone raises and held a vote whether or not to go undoing, and they didn’t.

The place he was hired for years later was a small firm, maybe employing less than 25 people in two states, and would never go Union. I don’t know why my iPad insists on capping “Union”.

I haven’t looked it up, but I think unions are all but disappeared across the labor landscape across the US. Perhaps I’ll Google that and post a link here.
 
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Last I checked, that type of labor is the most stagnant of all low-wage unskilled jobs. I hired a guy in 1995 for $15 and hour starting wage as a delivery driver at a cross dock with 40+ drivers and many years (2014) and many jobs later, he got hired at a warehouse for the exact same wage.
$15/hr was not low wage in 1995. I was making like $4.50/hr at that time.
 
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Reports that say that something hasn't happened are always interesting to me, because as we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns—the ones we don't know we don't know. And if one looks throughout the history of our country and other free countries, it is the latter category that tends to be the difficult ones.
And here I was just thinking of Abu Ghraib while you go straight for the word-salad.
 
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They need unions.

I worked in a fab shop ~2012, there was a welder who was making $18/hr in the 80s and was now making $15/hr.

But everything is fine as long as we can still cheaply consume without needing too much patience.
I know its easy to blame the big, bad corporations, but they aren't at fault. You are.
 
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$15/hr was not low wage in 1995. I was making like $4.50/hr at that time.

Yes, I know. It was pretty much the standard for a decent delivery driver job at the time. I wasn’t saying that $15 an hour was a low wage in 1995. Keep in mind, that was for a CDL carrying truck driving position, not an entry-level minimum wage job. $15 an hour in today’s (or maybe even in 2014) wages is poverty level.
 
Yes, I know. It was pretty much the standard for a decent delivery driver job at the time. I wasn’t saying that $15 an hour was a low wage in 1995. Keep in mind, that was for a CDL carrying truck driving position, not an entry-level minimum wage job. $15 an hour in today’s (or maybe even in 2014) wages is poverty level.
$15/hr is essentially what people were making on unemployment in Florida last year. While not great, it seemed to be enough to make them not want to go back to work...
 
$15/hr is essentially what people were making on unemployment in Florida last year. While not great, it seemed to be enough to make them not want to go back to work...

Maybe there, not here. That was the base state unemployment benefit then the fed added their chunk. The same guy I mentioned was making $1000 a week for around 9 months. THOSE were the ones that didn’t want to go back to work, as far as I remember.
 
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