FYI UF Money Thread

It's about the only industry that isn't subject to minimum wage laws. They're paid like $2.xx per hour. I blame Big Restaurant lobby.

the industry is still subject to minimum wage laws, it's that the minimum wage for employees that make over $30 in tips per month

Restaurants are partly responsible but so are servers and bartenders. With a lot of places that try to transition it fails not because the customers reject the price structure but that the servers head off to make more money elsewhere. Sometimes they are legitimately making less money but sometimes it's because they're not seeing cold hard cash in their hands. They don't care as much about the sick days and vacation days and health insurance which is to be expected when someone has a wad of cash in their pocket.

Yes cash certainly makes you more aware of the money coming in and going out but cash makes you think about right now, tomorrow, next week. Vacation days incentivise you to think about next year.

edit: I was wrong, even time travelers use cash

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ooh also some states mandate tipped employees get more than the federal min. wage

Montana $8.15 or $4.00 Same for tipped and non-tipped employees. Lower wage for employers not covered by FLSA and earning less than $110,000 in gross sales.
Nevada $8.25 Same for tipped and non-tipped employees. Minimum wage is $7.25 when it is accompanied by health insurance benefits.
Hawaii $8.50 tipped wage plus tips must reach $9.25/hr
New York $9.15 to $5.45 tipped wage varies widely by industry[9]
Minnesota $9.50 or $7.75 Same for tipped and non-tipped employees. Lower wage for employers making under $500,000 gross sales.
Alaska $9.80 Same for tipped and non-tipped employees
California $10.00 or $10.50 Same for tipped and non-tipped employees (26+ employees pays higher rate)
Oregon $10.25 to $11.25 Same for tipped and non-tipped employees
Washington $11.00 Same for tipped and non-tipped employees
 
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it's so annoyingly ingrained in our culture that one day we'll be arguing about whether or not robot waiters should get tips
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I really hope when you guys finally get around to raising the minimum wage to something liveable, that restaurants start doing away with tipping.
 
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I really hope when you guys finally get around to raising the minimum wage to something liveable, that restaurants start doing away with tipping.

I also dislike tip creep in other industries. I'd rather get my coffee out of a machine than wonder how much extra effort the dude behind the register has to put forth to be worth digging into my pocket for spare change to impart on the fiefdom of einstein's bagels.
 
I also dislike tip creep in other industries. I'd rather get my coffee out of a machine than wonder how much extra effort the dude behind the register has to put forth to be worth digging into my pocket for spare change to impart on the fiefdom of einstein's bagels.
I would only tip waiters at a restaurant and pizza delivery guys. Unwillingly I might add.
 
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I really hope when you guys finally get around to raising the minimum wage to something liveable, that restaurants start doing away with tipping.

personally, tipping is my way of rating an establishment. i absolutely must make a statement in dollars when i’m enjoying the convenience of public service. Taxis, bars, restaurants, strippers, etc
 
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