GAY Personal conflict about the Orlando mass shooting

[Mr. Argumentor]

Hell, its only a matter of time before some fuckboy comes in here and decides this is an argument

 

[Ledboots]

They should just pick one woman and pay her like 4 thousand billion dollars to serve coffee. Then the averages would even out and life would be fair.

I volunteer

 

[Duke]

Hell, its only a matter of time before some fuckboy comes in here and decides this is an argument

No, everyone decided that about 3 pages back.

As always, you just can't admit to being wrong

because narcissism

 

[HipHugHer]

I volunteer

Sext your resume to 867-5309. Attn: H^3.

 

[august]

Not that i agree with that, but everyone here goes on for days.
Domon can't help being rude and insensitive.
Helena can't help her wall o text.
August can't help but reply to any post about inequality.
No one can help but respond to JCC's weak trolling.

So why am I expected to be any different? Why hold me to a higher standard?

I don't think you're being held to a higher standard because I get shit all the time for my posts
but I do get it, while I sometimes AM being shitty, more often I am not trying to argue/yell and it comes across as argue-y/judgy/etc even when I try to explain I'm not. it's hard in text to understand/pick up on tone or intentions, whereas in person it's a lot more clear when you're having a discussion vs a heated argument.
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[Mr. Argumentor]

I don't think you're being held to a higher standard because I get shit all the time for my posts
but I do get it, while I sometimes AM being shitty, more often I am not trying to argue/yell and it comes across as argue-y/judgy/etc even when I try to explain I'm not. it's hard in text to understand/pick up on tone or intentions, whereas in person it's a lot more clear when you're having a discussion vs a heated argument.
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Yeah, but for the most part you only get shit from the mouth-breathing republicans. It's understandable why they are giving you shit.

 

[august]

Yeah, but for the most part you only get shit from the mouth-breathing republicans. It's understandable why they are giving you shit.

I come off as preachy and judgy, especially when my viewpoint or what I'm saying differs from what someone already believes (because if it's something they already agree with, it's not shocking or doesn't challenge their viewpoint, preaching to the choir kinda thing)
whereas if I was saying it in person, you could totally tell the difference, that I'm just trying to discuss something they may never have heard or present an opinion they didn't know existed and why that thought exists.

I'm also usually posting from my phone, so I get hasty and don't always make clear when I'm posting something I understand but don't necessarily agree with or support.

sometimes people are just shitty for shittiness' sake, but I honestly blame text and my own hastiness or inability to express my thoughts clearly enough for a lot of it (plus then I often respond crappily once the mood gets tense, which doesn't do me any favors). there's lots of factors, I try to be mindful of where the fuckups in communication are on me and try to be better next time. can't always be done, and yeah there is definitely a degree of trollingness in some of it.

 

[Domon]

I come off as preachy and judgy, especially when my viewpoint or what I'm saying differs from what someone already believes (because if it's something they already agree with, it's not shocking or doesn't challenge their viewpoint, preaching to the choir kinda thing)
whereas if I was saying it in person, you could totally tell the difference, that I'm just trying to discuss something they may never have heard or present an opinion they didn't know existed and why that thought exists.

I'm also usually posting from my phone, so I get hasty and don't always make clear when I'm posting something I understand but don't necessarily agree with or support.

sometimes people are just shitty for shittiness' sake, but I honestly blame text and my own hastiness or inability to express my thoughts clearly enough for a lot of it (plus then I often respond crappily once the mood gets tense, which doesn't do me any favors). there's lots of factors, I try to be mindful of where the fuckups in communication are on me and try to be better next time. can't always be done, and yeah there is definitely a degree of trollingness in some of it.

you come off as preachy and judgey because you write 4 paragraphs when two sentences would suffice.

 

[august]

you come off as preachy and judgey because you write 4 paragraphs when two sentences would suffice.

a lot of the time, the extra paragraphs are me trying to convey specifically what I am NOT saying, and I still get yelled at and accused of saying the thing

like I can specifically say "to be clear, I don't agree with the thing" and I'll get six responses of "HOW CAN YOU AGREE WITH THE THING YOU SJW LEGBEARD TUMBLRINA FEMINAZI"

 

[august]

I try to predict where people might read me wrong and address it before anyone gets mad and they still mad tho

 

[thintoast]

I don't think you're being held to a higher standard because I get shit all the time for my posts
but I do get it, while I sometimes AM being shitty, more often I am not trying to argue/yell and it comes across as argue-y/judgy/etc even when I try to explain I'm not. it's hard in text to understand/pick up on tone or intentions, whereas in person it's a lot more clear when you're having a discussion vs a heated argument.
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You don't come across as argumentative or judgy, you come across as preachy and soap boxy. It's the same thing everyone has heard before.

 

[Domon]

I think its the "loudness" of the opinions.

Everyone can have an opinion.

Most peoples opinions are this:

"I believe X for my own reasons"

yours are

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[Domon]

I try to predict where people might read me wrong and address it before anyone gets mad and they still mad tho

why do you need to do that? Cant you believe something, stand by it for your own reasons, and no go defensive on the automatic?

 

[thintoast]

The funny thing is, that my gf has a lot of the same views as you do, and our conversations are eye opening for both of us. We don't talk down to each other, we don't tell each other we're wrong, we don't try to change each others opinions, we simply have a discussion and ask why we feel the way we do. She knows I'm a Libertarian and I know she's a Democrat. But neither one of us are militant about it and we don't want to force each other to have the same views.

 

[Strings]

I think its the "loudness" of the opinions.

Everyone can have an opinion.

Most peoples opinions are this:

"I believe X for my own reasons"

yours are

"opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion opinion

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I almost had a seizure scrolling through that fast.

 

[thintoast]

I almost had a seizure scrolling through that fast.

Imagine the carpal tunnel he must have gotten when he typed it out!

 

[august]

why do you need to do that? Cant you believe something, stand by it for your own reasons, and no go defensive on the automatic?

if I don't, I spend the next 20 responses trying to clarify what I meant and people think I'm backpedaling.

 

[APRIL]

if I don't, I spend the next 20 responses trying to clarify what I meant and people think I'm backpedaling.

People don't read though - they skim. So it's wasted - walloftext.txt is so 1990s.

 

[Petunia]

Not that i agree with that, but everyone here goes on for days.
Domon can't help being rude and insensitive.
Helena can't help her wall o text.
August can't help but reply to any post about inequality.
No one can help but respond to JCC's weak trolling.

So why am I expected to be any different? Why hold me to a higher standard?

Agreed.
But I think this is about your argumentative ways.
And you're dead on about Domon

I couldn't have said it better

 

[Domon]

Agreed.
But I think this is about your argumentative ways.
And you're dead on about Domon

I couldn't have said it better

oi, fuck you buddy.