WTF Paul Walker was a pedophole??

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Originally Posted by plot
You'll put up with a lot less bullshit and immaturity if you do. :p
If you love the person, so what... I put up with a lot of immaturity because I love @fly. :D

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Originally Posted by plot
a lot less
 
I'm going to need some help with this. At what age are they?

On average, excluding any special circumstances? probably 23-25

More qualitatively, when theyve been surviving on their own. Paying their own bills, taking care of another human being, being fiscally responsible, holding a steady job, etc.

For some people, they can be doing all that when theyre 16 because their dad or mom died, or is incompetent, and theyre forced to growup real fast and take care of younger brothers and sisters. For others, they never reach that state.
 
So you are fine with 33 year olds dating 16 year olds, we get it.

I just love it when people absolutely miss the point.

I already said that was a big gray area for me. I was asked out by a guy in his late 20s when I was 16. I said no because he was a dork, but not sure how I would've felt if I actually liked him. It totally depends on the two people involved for me. I can't make a blanket statement that it is right or wrong.
 
Ok, and heres where we separate the egotistical people from the normal people.

Who here thinks they were capable and mature at 16?

I sure as fuck wasnt. I was a child. And even at 19 and 20 i was immature, made bad choices, and didnt take responsibility for my actions. By 23 i had enough sharp kicks in the ass to grow the fuck up, take care of myself in a hurry, and become who i am today.
 
I just love it when people absolutely miss the point.

I already said that was a big gray area for me. I was asked out by a guy in his late 20s when I was 16. I said no because he was a dork, but not sure how I would've felt if I actually liked him. It totally depends on the two people involved for me. I can't make a blanket statement that it is right or wrong.

Nothing odd about a guy in his late twenties leaving the office early and heading to the high school to pick up his gf?

For me it goes back to the different stages in life. Nobody is special, you can fall in love with a large number of people, so pick one who's close to your age group and location. You are extremely connected to Luis now because you've built a life together, but before you invested that time and effort you could have just as easily found another Luis.

One not from Ohio. :p
 
I was far more mature at 16 than most of my friends. My mom died, my dad traveled a lot, so while I made no money to speak of really (worked part time) I ran the house. Made sure we had groceries, cleaned and did yard work. So at 17 when my sister moved out, I was home alone a lot.

Yes I made bad choices and did dumb things now and then, but nothing totally f'd up my life. Maybe drank too much or other things like that, but I would've done that after my mom died no matter what - to kind of dull the pain. I quit that crap by the time I was 19, but never was so bad that it got in the way of my grades in school ever, so can't say it was too bad. I still do some stupid shit now and then so not sure how much the crap I did years ago really matters :fly:
 
Ok, and heres where we separate the egotistical people from the normal people.

Who here thinks they were capable and mature at 16?

I sure as fuck wasnt. I was a child. And even at 19 and 20 i was immature, made bad choices, and didnt take responsibility for my actions. By 23 i had enough sharp kicks in the ass to grow the fuck up, take care of myself in a hurry, and become who i am today.

Yea, nobody has ever completely changed during college either. Life, work, bills, etc have never helped shape a person.

So is that 16 year old going to be the same person when she's 25? Fuck no.