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Amstel
The Hoarse Whisperer
I didn't say that. I said as a country grows larger the gap widens between the rich and poor. You tend to get a larger percentage of under the poverty line after you reach a center point. It's not a linear growth for wealth.
ugh you are being purposefully ignorant. Obviously the average pay in those countries and value of their currency factors in.
Amstel
The Hoarse Whisperer
10k deductible?
I think these are the smartest plans. The owner responsibly manages their own healthcare.
Not, since there's a bunch of wacko's not managing, let's make one plan for everyone. It will cost 2-3-4x more, but we'll tell them we're really saving them $2500 a year, and we'll feel so good about it. How could it be wrong if it feels so good!?
I think my largest deductible is like $100. I pay around $120/month for a family of 4 with dental and vision.
lol healthcare in this country is silly.
You and Fly with these fuzzy math numbers. I can make claims based on zero evidence too!
Amstel
The Hoarse Whisperer
Amstel
The Hoarse Whisperer
Amstel
The Hoarse Whisperer
Really?
And you are basing this off what? Your extensive use of the product?
you keep pretending this is a worthwhile endevour. Obama himself said you can't cure homelessness by legally requiring everyone to have a home.
re: his poor insurance plan:
he claimed to be saving the average household $2500, instead it's up $7500.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapot...pending-by-7450-for-a-typical-family-of-four/
A Doctor friend of mine posted this on Facebook. Interesting:
Even though coverage for everyone is great, be prepared to wait a lot...
There has been a major shortage of physicians in the USA for quite some time and the shortage is growing. Even though the Affordable Care Act (ACA)/Obamacare will allow all citizens to receive health insurance coverage, it doesn't mean that it will necessarily be quality "health care."
Primary Care Physicians have the right to refuse patients and that's been happening a lot more in recent years and will continue under Obamacare/ACA. Physicians are already overwhelmed with patients and now adding even more patients to the mix will stress the system even more....
Democrats will likely attempt some push to force doctors into seeing more Medicare patients, which will only result in doctors dropping out of the profession altogether.
What's even worse is that Medical Colleges are lowering their standards to accept more students to help fix the doctor shortage problem. "Yeah, let's lower our academic standards to get more students into medical school that would otherwise not make it in."
With physicians having their salaries drop because of the ACA and because to become a Board Certified Physician in any field takes roughly the first 33 years of your life and an average of $200,000 in student loan debt to achieve, the incentive to become a physician is lessened. Let's not forget the high out of pocket malpractice insurance a doctor needs and also the higher federal tax brackets that doctors typically fall into (pay your fair share!!!)
As the hospitals and doctors continue to get overwhelmed, be prepared to wait weeks and months longer just to even see a doctor for your ailment.
https://www.aamc.org/advocacy/campaigns_and_coalitions/fixdocshortage/
Even though coverage for everyone is great, be prepared to wait a lot...
There has been a major shortage of physicians in the USA for quite some time and the shortage is growing. Even though the Affordable Care Act (ACA)/Obamacare will allow all citizens to receive health insurance coverage, it doesn't mean that it will necessarily be quality "health care."
Primary Care Physicians have the right to refuse patients and that's been happening a lot more in recent years and will continue under Obamacare/ACA. Physicians are already overwhelmed with patients and now adding even more patients to the mix will stress the system even more....
Democrats will likely attempt some push to force doctors into seeing more Medicare patients, which will only result in doctors dropping out of the profession altogether.
What's even worse is that Medical Colleges are lowering their standards to accept more students to help fix the doctor shortage problem. "Yeah, let's lower our academic standards to get more students into medical school that would otherwise not make it in."
With physicians having their salaries drop because of the ACA and because to become a Board Certified Physician in any field takes roughly the first 33 years of your life and an average of $200,000 in student loan debt to achieve, the incentive to become a physician is lessened. Let's not forget the high out of pocket malpractice insurance a doctor needs and also the higher federal tax brackets that doctors typically fall into (pay your fair share!!!)
As the hospitals and doctors continue to get overwhelmed, be prepared to wait weeks and months longer just to even see a doctor for your ailment.
https://www.aamc.org/advocacy/campaigns_and_coalitions/fixdocshortage/
eileenbunny
Druish Princess
I don't think we can have real healthcare reform until we take it out of the hands of greedy business people. Unfortunately we charge insane amounts for procedures in our hospitals and doctors offices. Insurance companies are making a killing off of us as are private healthcare facilities. Yes, we are subsidizing the old, but if we didn't we'd have a bunch of old, sick, homeless people slumped on every street corner. I don't care how much you save and how well you plan. When my grandfather-in-law was in a nursing home the bill came to $15000.00 a month. That's $180000.00 a year. He was in that nursing home for like 5 years. That's almost a million dollars for 5 years worth of care. He retired some 15 years before that. You can bet when he was in his 30's he wasn't thinking he needed to save several million dollars. It probably wouldn't have even been possible. It's not that he didn't save, but he couldn't save enough. What is a person supposed to do in the face of this? I'm sure it didn't cost $15000 a month to care for him, but we couldn't find any place cheaper that had reasonable care for his conditions. The care he got wasn't even all that great. It's a terrible situation and I doubt any of us are ready to face it ourselves, no matter how carefully we save and plan.
Amstel
The Hoarse Whisperer
I would rather have a choice of which business people to buy from instead of buying from a government that claims to be less greedy but take twice as many people to monitor it - we want to make sure we're being fair so we're really redundant, and and our overhead is 10x more because as gov't employees, we need our benefits.