Ontopic WTB, WTT: Organs. Fresh squeezed.
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I misread your post anyways. Since you have the option to opt out, that takes care of what I said anyways.
They do that, and they get a malpractice suit.
Although your insurance company would do the same thing.
Not always.
Well clearly, it's up to you. After you die, you have the choice of filing a suit or not.
the doctor doesnt make the decision. You die, then they take your organs.
Theyre independent events.
I understand that. April was the one that said the doctor decides. And if that DOES happen (i.e. they intentionally kill you), that's a malpractice suit.
The interesting thing is... is when are you truly dead? When is the moment of death?
Stopping the heart doesn't mean your dead.
Not breathing doesn't mean you're dead.
This documentary is neat and thought provoking.
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After about 1/2 hour they usually stop. Because having a tube breathe and feed you also doesn't mean you're alive.
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let me correct my statement. The doctor doesnt make the decision to keep you alive, or to let you die. If its ever a question as to whether you can be kept alive, you are kept alive.
Watch the documentary (download the whole thing) It has some great information.
Death isn't a precise moment.
ok tin-foil-hat-lady.
The doctors are all out to get you, and will benefit personally from your death. Theres a massive underground conspiracy of doctors killing people to steal their organs.
You've read one too many Robin Cook books.
Okay now you're being dramatic. Are you saying its not possible? Because there have been many instances where it has happened... and then there are the instances no one was caught.
Not going to go deep into the argument on when death occurs. I can tell you for sure that when my mom died it was not something that a doctor had to tell us. It was pretty darn accurate. In times of accidents and even illnesses the family has the right to keep a patient going, so those with strong family support rely on that more than a doctor even.
I won't say much more other than that.
As for paying for organs, I can tell you for sure that my friend who had a kidney transplant would have paid big time for his organ. Heck we all would. Donating an organ is really not simple at all (living donations like kidneys) and there are risks to the person donating as well. I sincerely doubt paying someone to do it would help unless we are talking substantial amounts. And I mean double digits if not more - along the lines of fees for surrogates for pregnancy. It's not an easy thing to do and I admit I wouldn't do it for just anyone - even for a small amount of money. It is risky to do.
After death, yeah it wouldn't help to get more donations at all.
I won't say much more other than that.
As for paying for organs, I can tell you for sure that my friend who had a kidney transplant would have paid big time for his organ. Heck we all would. Donating an organ is really not simple at all (living donations like kidneys) and there are risks to the person donating as well. I sincerely doubt paying someone to do it would help unless we are talking substantial amounts. And I mean double digits if not more - along the lines of fees for surrogates for pregnancy. It's not an easy thing to do and I admit I wouldn't do it for just anyone - even for a small amount of money. It is risky to do.
After death, yeah it wouldn't help to get more donations at all.
You haven't read enough news. This actually happens.
One instance...
http://www.naturalnews.com/041152_transplant_patients_organ_harvesting_presumed_consent.html
people also get murdered in their home with axes. That doesnt mean its something you should be concerned about for the 1 in a million chance.
Its not in any way something likely to happen.