Which politician are you most in tune with?
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Who is too busy to care? No one that spends time on this forum is too busy to care. No one that watches a dozen hours of TV each week is too busy to care. No one that that goes out drinking or clubbing on the weekends is too busy to care.
And those are the types of people that make up the vast majority of the American population. Very few people are wage slaves and I'd be willing to bet than the only significant section of the population that can even claim that term are illegals and even then its by their own choice.
So I'm sorry but no, people are not too busy to care. People simply have their personal gratification higher on their list of priorities than contributing to the betterment of society. And that's ok, that's the human condition. I'm guilty of it as well. I could and should spend my time volunteering but I like enjoying my time off as much as everyone else. But I don't use the excuse that I'm too busy to care. I care and I act. I involve myself in local politics and when my government is doing things I don't like I act. I write letters, make phone calls and have even stopped by the office of my state senator multiple times in the past year.
Why? Because I actually care. I still waste a couple hours playing TF2 but when a new law comes into place that I don't like at the very least I can say that I tried to do something about it. Then I hear people bitch about the state of the country and I have to ask "what have you done about it?" I've seen a lot of people here complaining about invasions of privacy by the government.
What have you done about it?
I've seen people here complaining about animal abuse.
What have you done about it?
I've seen people here complaining about the war in Iraq.
What have you done about it?
If people can't say they've at least tried to involve themselves in the problems they bitch about they have no place to bitch.
edit: also, fuck litterbugs.
And those are the types of people that make up the vast majority of the American population. Very few people are wage slaves and I'd be willing to bet than the only significant section of the population that can even claim that term are illegals and even then its by their own choice.
So I'm sorry but no, people are not too busy to care. People simply have their personal gratification higher on their list of priorities than contributing to the betterment of society. And that's ok, that's the human condition. I'm guilty of it as well. I could and should spend my time volunteering but I like enjoying my time off as much as everyone else. But I don't use the excuse that I'm too busy to care. I care and I act. I involve myself in local politics and when my government is doing things I don't like I act. I write letters, make phone calls and have even stopped by the office of my state senator multiple times in the past year.
Why? Because I actually care. I still waste a couple hours playing TF2 but when a new law comes into place that I don't like at the very least I can say that I tried to do something about it. Then I hear people bitch about the state of the country and I have to ask "what have you done about it?" I've seen a lot of people here complaining about invasions of privacy by the government.
What have you done about it?
I've seen people here complaining about animal abuse.
What have you done about it?
I've seen people here complaining about the war in Iraq.
What have you done about it?
If people can't say they've at least tried to involve themselves in the problems they bitch about they have no place to bitch.
edit: also, fuck litterbugs.
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Here's where it went down:
Okay, so its not the FBI. Its the CIA he wants to get rid of. Great!
Here's where it went down:
Okay, so its not the FBI. Its the CIA he wants to get rid of. Great!
dude, wtf
not only did you not even read my post but you didn't even read the quote you posted And then there's:
So if you want to repost the part of the quote where he suggests getting rid of the CIA I'd appreciate it.
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If you want to pay for an FBI/CIA that lies in court and lets innocent people go to death row that's fine by me - I really don't care, but _I_ don't want to pay for it, period.
biden - 48, not going to vote for him due to his approval of Line-Item Veto
clinton - 48, not terribly sure about her
obama - 48, not going to vote for him, not enough experience, hasn't been around
dodd - 41, not going to vote for him due to his opposition of Death Penalty
giuliani - 39, don't like him
edwards - 36, not going to vote for him due to his approval of Line-Item Veto
and the rest are nobody's in my opinion.
I'm registered as an independant, due to not liking either party although I lean towards democrat. Approval of Line-Item Veto is a deal breaker for me. Not negotiable. It isn't right (or consitutional in my book) that the Prez can do that.
clinton - 48, not terribly sure about her
obama - 48, not going to vote for him, not enough experience, hasn't been around
dodd - 41, not going to vote for him due to his opposition of Death Penalty
giuliani - 39, don't like him
edwards - 36, not going to vote for him due to his approval of Line-Item Veto
and the rest are nobody's in my opinion.
I'm registered as an independant, due to not liking either party although I lean towards democrat. Approval of Line-Item Veto is a deal breaker for me. Not negotiable. It isn't right (or consitutional in my book) that the Prez can do that.
Line-item veto is pretty shitty but I still have a hard time understanding why Congress is allowed to attach riders to bills. Equally as heinous.
dude, wtf
Did you not even read my reply?
Okay, so its not the FBI. Its the CIA he wants to get rid of. Great!
And did you read the question that was asked of him either?
Yes I read your reply. And the question. And neither one actually indicates that he actually said what you believe he said. Chris Wallace made the implication that he wanted to get rid of said agencies and he replied in the negative. He then went on to explain - very clearly - that intelligence gathering is important but that having proper intelligence analysis is also important and that's what our current system is lacking.
So again, if you'd care to actually quote the line in which he suggests dismantling either organization that's be swell.
So again, if you'd care to actually quote the line in which he suggests dismantling either organization that's be swell.
Line-item veto is pretty shitty but I still have a hard time understanding why Congress is allowed to attach riders to bills. Equally as heinous.
I completely agree.
He only replied no to the FBI. You win tho, I'm too tired to debate today.
Either way, the guy is waaay too far out there to ever even remotely become President.
Indeed, and that's what makes me sad. People think that running our government by the very document that formed it, the very document that gives our government its authority, is "out there".
When the revolution comes I hope someone keeps a copy of the Constitution because in half a century most won't even know what it is.
Indeed, and that's what makes me sad. People think that running our government by the very document that formed it, the very document that gives our government its authority, is "out there".
When the revolution comes I hope someone keeps a copy of the Constitution because in half a century most won't even know what it is.
Apparently, you can build an entire draconian government out of two words: interstate commerce.
I cannot believe I'm the only Ron Paul supporter on this board.
I don't believe the libertarian party completely agrees with all of my view points sir. Besides dismantling the government absolutely scares me
besides being pro personal freedoms, I'm also pro universal health care, for abolishing the private education system (get rid of charter and parochial schools), I'd say what I stand for is the most unattainable stance in America.
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Indeed, and that's what makes me sad. People think that running our government by the very document that formed it, the very document that gives our government its authority, is "out there".
When the revolution comes I hope someone keeps a copy of the Constitution because in half a century most won't even know what it is.
Do you ever get tired from all the knee-jerking?
No one's suggesting dismantling the government :o simply that smaller government is better because it's easier to control. It's a lot easier to bug your governor and state senators about shit than it is to bug the president and congress critters.
Universal health care will take our already sketchy system and utterly ruin it.
And private education is superior to public education in almost all forms.
Why do you hate children? No, I have one of those little rubber reflex tester thingies on hand at all times.Do you ever get tired from all the knee-jerking?