Halp How fast is too fast to pay off a mortgage?

A house is not an investment? What?
Nope. Crunch the numbers. The amount that is invested in the house AND interest AND higher utilities AND HOA AND repair costs AND maintenance costs far outweighs the possible growth potential as an investment. In Cleveland, after 30 years, it's cheaper to have rented that whole time than bought and sold that house.
 
Yeah. Housing prices fluctuate. Buy at the bottom of the fluctuation, not the top.

The people we bought our house from got buttfucked outta a quarter million because they bought when prices were at there peak.

The neighbors are underwater too.
I had to sell at the bottom, relocation. fortunately it wasn't a HUGE loss and work covered a lot of it.
 
Nope. Crunch the numbers. The amount that is invested in the house AND interest AND higher utilities AND HOA AND repair costs AND maintenance costs far outweighs the possible growth potential as an investment. In Cleveland, after 30 years, it's cheaper to have rented that whole time than bought and sold that house.

Sounds like you had a crappy house then.
 
Nope. Crunch the numbers. The amount that is invested in the house AND interest AND higher utilities AND HOA AND repair costs AND maintenance costs far outweighs the possible growth potential as an investment. In Cleveland, after 30 years, it's cheaper to have rented that whole time than bought and sold that house.
All that stuff that you pay is built into the cost of rent...
 
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Nope. Crunch the numbers. The amount that is invested in the house AND interest AND higher utilities AND HOA AND repair costs AND maintenance costs far outweighs the possible growth potential as an investment. In Cleveland, after 30 years, it's cheaper to have rented that whole time than bought and sold that house.


Thats because you bought a shitbox inside harris county
 
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Thats because you bought a shitbox inside harris county
Nah one word explains it all - "Cleveland" aka mistake on the lake. Only those who live there ever think it's a nice place to live.

Our house on the other hand has more than doubled in value since we purchased it and never dropped below even when the housing bubble burst. But we don't live in a craphole part of the state (which is admittedly a lot of it for living).
 
Yes, yes, that's it. No research at all.
If market timing were real, the stock market wouldn't be able to exist. There is no way to know when a market, or stock, bottoms out or is at it's peak. You can make an educated guess, but it's still just that - a guess.
 
If market timing were real, the stock market wouldn't be able to exist. There is no way to know when a market, or stock, bottoms out or is at it's peak. You can make an educated guess, but it's still just that - a guess.

Absolute peak or absolute bottom?. Sure, those points are hard to hit but that's a small, finite point. Knowing when it's about to bottom, that isn't guesswork. Can it do something widely different, sure? But typically you can gauge a relative peak, or valley, with some research.
 
Absolute peak or absolute bottom?. Sure, those points are hard to hit but that's a small, finite point. Knowing when it's about to bottom, that isn't guesswork. Can it do something widely different, sure? But typically you can gauge a relative peak, or valley, with some research.
Uh huh. How are you even working if you're this good at market timing?
 
We bought a house in 2006 then luckily a few months later Kyle was laid off so we made a location change causing us to put it in the market the middle of 07. We sold it mere months before everything went downhill and we're able to get out with a couple thousand in the bank.

But seriously it was all luck. If he hadn't gotten laid off we would have stayed and been way upside down and likely would have stayed in Utah till it went back up.

We still would have gotten the value eventually as I believe Utah has completely recovered but man my life would be different.
 
Nope. Crunch the numbers. The amount that is invested in the house AND interest AND higher utilities AND HOA AND repair costs AND maintenance costs far outweighs the possible growth potential as an investment. In Cleveland, after 30 years, it's cheaper to have rented that whole time than bought and sold that house.
Housing market must suck there. Here housing is one of to top investments.