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Lost me at "Men have required women to do".. What a load of utter bullshit. If a women doesn't want to do any of those things, it's a free country and she doesn't have to. Same goes with men who don't want to be snipped. There are plenty of other methods of birth control like morning after pill or condoms. If you don't like any of those, then don't have sex.

I think the argument is for couples that actually want to have a healthy and active sex life.

Taking the pill or any sort of hormone treatment for birth control carries certain risks with it, not the least of which is an increased risk of cancer. Stroke, blood clots, increased potassium, thyroid issues, pituitary gland issues, and development of cysts are some of the serious risks of taking hormones, and these complications aren't as uncommon as you would think.

IUD's can be dangerous because of it can get imbedded in the uterine wall, or cause serious infection, or cause a hole in the uterus, or cause an ectopic pregnancy. All of those conditions can be fatal or make you have to have your bits scooped out.

The morning after pill should not ever be considered a form of ongoing birth control because of the serious risks associated with taking that all the time, not to mention how uncomfortable you'd be as a woman taking that all the time. Common side effects are severe cramping, nausea, vomiting, dizziness, headaches, bleeding and breast tenderness. It changes your cervix, uterine lining and ovarian function, so that's not really a good idea to do all the time.

Then there's condoms. Do you like condoms? They are uncomfortable and associated with increases in vaginal infections and soreness at the very least.

There's things like the sponge and other spermicidal blocks. They aren't as effective as the other forms of birth control discussed here, but can be an option for committed couples who don't really mind the idea that there's a small risk of pregnancy. It does tend to take the spontaneity out of sex since most of these methods require you to insert and wait 10 minutes or more but not more than an hour before using. Also, sometimes the spermicide winds up getting in the penis and causing severe discomfort. One person once told me it felt like a glass rod had been shoved up there and then broken.

There's diaphragms and cervical caps which are also less effective and a pain in the butt to use not to mention that they can cause vaginal infections.

Then we talk about surgeries that permanently or semi-permanently make conception near impossible. Someone else has already discussed these two options here. One's a super invasive surgery and the other isn't. One is easily reversible and the other isn't. They obviously aren't recommended for couples that haven't had children yet and all the risks of surgery apply.

The big point here is this: Not one of these forms of birth control asks more of the man than it does of the woman. We haven't even begun to address the fact that women are the ones who will suffer the major consequences if the chosen method doesn't work. We are the ones who have to get pregnant. We are the ones who suffer permanent changes to our bodies because of that. Asking a man to get a minor surgery after all that doesn't really seem like a big deal to me. We want to have sex too, but we don't always want to be the ones to suffer the consequences of that choice. For a man to say "yes, I too want a healthy sex life in our relationship but I'm not willing to do anything to that end" seems like a big cop-out to me.
 
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I don't want one. Why should I be forced to do something I do not want to do? Should I force a woman to get her tubes tied? Of course not. Regardless of the severity of each sex's options, what trumps that is what an individual wants or does not want done to their body. If both the male and female do not want to have the respective procedure performed, yet both still want to continue a sexual relationship, then they are both out of luck.
 
I don't want one. Why should I be forced to do something I do not want to do? Should I force a woman to get her tubes tied? Of course not. Regardless of the severity of each sex's options, what trumps that is what an individual wants or does not want done to their body. If both the male and female do not want to have the respective procedure performed, yet both still want to continue a sexual relationship, then they are both out of luck.

While I respect your choice, and I realize it is your body I just wanted to lay it all out there. Also, I believe you are a great big chicken. :p
 
There's a lot more parts to the sex machine in a woman, therefore a lot of different ways to stop it. There aren't a lot of parts to the man's sex machine...
 
There's a lot more parts to the sex machine in a woman, therefore a lot of different ways to stop it. There aren't a lot of parts to the man's sex machine...

Negative there ghost rider

Girls have this:
Labia
Vagina
Bartholin's glands
Clitoris
Uterus
Ovaries
Fallopian Tubes

Men have this:
Epididymis
Vas deferens
Ejaculatory ducts
Urethra
Seminal vesicles
Prostate gland
Bulbourethral glands
Penis
Scrotum
Testicles
 
A teacher is one of my Sex Ed classes in high school talked about this. He said you have to be careful of semen leaking from the anus and entering the vagina :lol: Could you imagine being a child conceived that way?

This is actually my theory of how jesus was conceived. Joseph was putting it in marys ass so she could stay a virgin and some leakage/drippage occurred.
 
If my baby batter makes it all the way down from her face to the vagoo and baby be formed, then that child definitely earned his right to exist.
 
If my baby batter makes it all the way down from her face to the vagoo and baby be formed, then that child definitely earned his right to exist.

What terribly women do you hang out with that don't swallow? Shame.
 
What terribly women do you hang out with that don't swallow? Shame.

You are like a walking contradiction. You give me shit for not wanting to appease a woman by being the one to have a vasectomy, OMG think of the women! Now you're giving shit to women who do not appease a man by swallowing his semen.
 
You are like a walking contradiction. You give me shit for not wanting to appease a woman by being the one to have a vasectomy, OMG think of the women! Now you're giving shit to women who do not appease a man by swallowing his semen.

Because semen is tasty and shooting it on the face is wasting such a tasty treat for the woman. It's like dangling a chocolate in front of her and not letting her have it. It's just rude.
 
Negative there ghost rider

Girls have this:
Labia
Vagina
Bartholin's glands
Clitoris
Uterus
Ovaries
Fallopian Tubes

Men have this:
Epididymis
Vas deferens
Ejaculatory ducts
Urethra
Seminal vesicles
Prostate gland
Bulbourethral glands
Penis
Scrotum
Testicles

OK, but I didn't actually mean physical parts. There are many more ways to "easily" inhibit reproduction in women than men.
 
You are like a walking contradiction. You give me shit for not wanting to appease a woman by being the one to have a vasectomy, OMG think of the women! Now you're giving shit to women who do not appease a man by swallowing his semen.

and I am serious when I chatted with you and chided you for being a coward and thoughtless. I am joking when I talk to duke. If you have ever seen hiim, he's a walking joke not to be serious with; it might confuse him.
 
and I am serious when I chatted with you and chided you for being a coward and thoughtless. I am joking when I talk to duke. If you have ever seen hiim, he's a walking joke not to be serious with; it might confuse him.

Thoughtless? I'm thoughtless? What a fucking narrow mind.
 
Thoughtless? I'm thoughtless? What a fucking narrow mind.

You don't know how PMS works. You don't know the different (and dangerous) options your wife, your life partner, has to decide because you both agreed you don't want any more kids and are unwilling to perform a slight sacrifice on your part to save her from the time and pain and scarring and damage. Yes. thoughtless.
 
OK, but I didn't actually mean physical parts. There are many more ways to "easily" inhibit reproduction in women than men.

Oh come on, they can make pills, injections, inserts, and implants that cause my cervix to become thicker or my uterine lining to slough off or my ovaries to not release an egg or to trick my body into thinking it's pregnant when it isn't and change my hormone production but they can't develop a pill that inhibits the production or changes the nature of semen? Seriously? I just think there hasn't been as much research into it. Why bother? Let women deal with it. Men might suffer some consequences? Oh horrors. And while we are on the subject, why is Viagra covered by virtually every insurance company in this country but the birth control pill isn't? What's that all about?
 
You don't know how PMS works. You don't know the different (and dangerous) options your wife, your life partner, has to decide because you both agreed you don't want any more kids and are unwilling to perform a slight sacrifice on your part to save her from the time and pain and scarring and damage. Yes. thoughtless.

Julie is an adult.