Talkie said:Guns don't need to be banned, we just need to be more selective as to who is allowed to have them.
NeedMoreEmo said:Lots of statistics, Im not going to bother finding some though. Guns arent dangerous? They arent manufactured with the purpose to kill? Sure, don't blame the gun companies targetting the market for crinimals by marketing new, deadlier guns I don't see the need for guns in the home, or anywhere else for that matter.
NeedMoreEmo said:What are you going to do, make sure you have background checks at every oppurtunity? Ban parents from buying guns, incase their little kids get hold of the gun and kill themselves or their friends? Kind of hard to be selective about who's allowed to buy something.
wr3kt said:I read your post incorrectly, check edit.
All guns are deadly. Period.
Anything is deadly.
The point is who uses them.
Companies don't target criminals. Why? Because they don't profit from it.
Everytime a crime is commited and a weapon and manufacturer are identified, they are actively hunted down. Companies DO NOT get good business that way. They also do not recieve any type of profit from underground sales.
What type of gun a person buys is their own choice.
A gun is a gun is a gun. Without ammunition, it is harmless. Completely harmless. It takes a person to load the ammunition and fire the gun.
NeedMoreEmo said:Some things are more deadly than others, sure I could beat someone to death with this keyboard (God knows it weighs enough) but it's not built for that purpose. What's an AK47 made for? Oh yeah to uh....look at? No, it's to penetrate flesh and kill.
So you blame someone who's a psychopath for buying a gun, loading a magazine and then shooting down his whole family, there's no blame on the companies part? What use is a gun without ammunition? Pistol whipping doesnt do much good from range.
wr3kt said:I'm all for parent with children owning guns. I encourage it AS LONG AS the parents teach their children about guns. The main reason children harm themselves is because they know absolutely nothing about guns. I was raised in a gun-friendly environment. I was around 8 at the time when my father told me about the guns. He let me handle it, unloaded, and explained it all. He also took me out shooting when I got older.
Once the "shininess" of the gun is faded...it becomes as harmless as kitchen cutlery to a child. It's just there. It's not cool, it's not surprising.
Again...ignorance is the main problem.
BigDov said:Nope, didn't hear that. What are they going to kill now though??
Pancake Wagon said:http://www.startribune.com/stories/462/5097995.html
Thats right, ban all guns.
NeedMoreEmo said:He didn't need to. He had charming looks and pretended to have his arm in a cast.
I'm not going to be able to convince you, but in all honesty, once you've been around guns all your life, you begin to realize the stupidity that is "guns are bad".
People are bad.
If we didn't have guns, people would still be murdered. Crimes would still happen.
It's always been this way since civilization started.
Guns are just a target of people looking for something to blame other than their fear of learning about something new.
NeedMoreEmo said:And we have less gun crime per capita than you do. Because guns are illegal and always will be, but I guess your Founding Fathers envisioned the kinds of weapons you guys now have for "self defense".
I know every murderer on that site. "Serial" killers aren't notorious in the slightest if they go bang bang and walk away, they have to commit otorcious and violently creative crimes to get noticed.
Edit2: And people who go shoot their whole families down ARE NOT serial killers by definition. A lot of crimes of passion are commited without thought and with the aid of guns.
NeedMoreEmo said:Guns dont kill people....robbers do. I dont really care about guns, there's only about 3areas of my city where you'll ever even have the chance of being near one, and Im never going in either one. I just feel like posting/being objective.
Without guns, murder would be harder and Im sure much harder to conceal. Should weapons that are designed for the purpose of killing other humans be so easy to get hold of? I dont think so.
wr3kt said:Then someone with the intent to murder will simply find another means to do so.
A bow and arrow is designed just as effectively to kill. So is a knife.
Don't blame the tool a person used to commit a crime, blame the person.
NeedMoreEmo said:This isnt about a bow and arrow, killing a Welsh man from the third storey of a biulding wiith a bow and arrow on a Sunday is perfectly legal, or something like that.
My issue is why do we need new models of guns, to make more efficient killing, to create more crime and to appeal to yes, criminals.
BigDov said:Boy you're in a mood aren't ya??
We need new models of guns so we can more effectively incapacitate the bad peoples throughout the land, AND so we can kill our animals quicker and more humanely.