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polo

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I see. I'd be fucked then I guess. But I suppose Republicans would say that's my fault for having non-life threatening medical issues that I occasionally need help with in order to make me a productive tax payer fo rmy country. :)

don't kid yourself. red, blue, yellow, green. doesn't matter who the party are, the objectives are all the same.
 

Dory Berkowitz-Bukowski

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Cialis is 37 GBP per administration, Enbrel is 79 per administration, Tadalafil is 1600 per administration.

No work is "free", someones gotta pay for it. There is multiple forms given to everyone interested enough to claim back money on both Opitician and Dentistry expenses. Almost every PCT has an NHS dentist as well, at least that's the target.

Simply because you phone a Dentist, make an appointment and pay for it doesn't mean it's not NHS. Who pays for the Dentist's training, infrastructure, clinic? Where does the anaesthetist come from? What standard does he work to?

To have one very MINOR part of medicine outside the remit of the NHS would be a civil service disaster.

Now you're just trying to misinform the Americans on here about our dentistry. :lol:

Where does the anaesthetist come from? I don't know about Ireland but if you need an anaesthetist you go to a hospital, so it's 'free'. Dentists in England rarely, if ever, anaesthetise or have anaesthetists in their clinics.
 

polo

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I don't believe the federal government should be involved in my health care in any way.

good ol' wild west, non-quality assured quackery is where it's at, isn't it?

without an institute of clinical excellence your healthcare will end up just as gerrymandered as emergency relief, oil drilling or engineering contracts.
 

polo

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Now you're just trying to misinform the Americans on here about our dentistry. :lol:

Where does the anaesthetist come from? I don't know about Ireland but if you need an anaesthetist you go to a hospital, so it's 'free'. Dentists in England rarely, if ever, anaesthetise or have anaesthetists in their clinics.

Dentists lost the power of administering anything other than Dihydrocodone in 2007.

Show the 'American's how long it's been since you've been to a dentist why don't you?
 

Dory Berkowitz-Bukowski

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Dentists lost the power of administering anything other than Dihydrocodone in 2007.

Show the 'American's how long it's been since you've been to a dentist why don't you?

I hesitated to say they NEVER did it just incase there's a specialist who works in many fields who is capable. However my point stands.
 
How would you propose cutting health care costs though? Obviously, free market isn't working.

Giving the federal government control isn't going to cut costs, the actual cost will probably increase given the overwhelming history the feds have with making things cost more.

Sure, what some people pay will be less, but it's not going to cost less.

I love how so many are so willing to go with an obviously bad plan for everyone, just because the current situation sucks for some.
 

polo

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I hesitated to say they NEVER did it just incase there's a specialist who works in many fields who is capable. However my point stands.

What the hell do you mean your point still stands? You dropped both mental inferrences about price of drugs and that Dentistry isn't part of the NHS and now you've moved on to Anaesthetists don't administer drugs?

What the flying FUCK are you on about?
 

polo

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Giving the federal government control isn't going to cut costs, the actual cost will probably increase given the overwhelming history the feds have with making things cost more.

Sure, what some people pay will be less, but it's not going to cost less.

I love how so many are so willing to go with an obviously bad plan for everyone, just because the current situation sucks for some.

I know my assertions are a bit harder to reply to but I'm sure if you try and answer me instead of the demagogues you'll have no problem defending your ideological stance.
 

Coqui

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Giving the federal government control isn't going to cut costs, the actual cost will probably increase given the overwhelming history the feds have with making things cost more.

Sure, what some people pay will be less, but it's not going to cost less.

I love how so many are so willing to go with an obviously bad plan for everyone, just because the current situation sucks for some.

I don't believe that's what I asked.