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JAXvillain

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Only when you go to the ER because you're dying.

which costs the tax payers exorbitant amounts of money. preventative maintenance through national healthcare would all but resolve this almost entirely besides the odd car accident or broken arm
 

OzSTEEZ

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which costs the tax payers exorbitant amounts of money. preventative maintenance through national healthcare would all but resolve this almost entirely besides the odd car accident or broken arm



Not to mention not having to appease shareholders..
 

Dory Berkowitz-Bukowski

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referrals for dental surgery are free if contact with primary healthcare is made first.

also a few simple forms will get you your money back in most cases, same with opticians.

it has been this way since Bevin conjured up the NHS..

So dental surgery i.e. a procedure within a hospital not a dental surgery is free? That's not exactly a huge share of the dental market and you know it dullard.
 

polo

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So dental surgery i.e. a procedure within a hospital not a dental surgery is free? That's not exactly a huge share of the dental market and you know it dullard.

all oral and maxillofacial work is carried out by schools of dentistry - all referalls are free at the point of care onward.

aside from "check ups", dental care is mostly subsidized and almost all of it can be claimed back.

why are you arguing this? almost all drugs for some of the most common conditions in the UK are pay-for prescriptions, I wouldn't count that as "free" either.
 

polo

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From my understanding there are free hospitals available in some places.

pro-bono work is the choice of the doctor, not the hospital.

hospitals operating as charities however institute this top down. this also exists here.
 

Dory Berkowitz-Bukowski

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Tell me about this point of care and what it is just so I'm clear. You mean it's free work from a maxillofacial surgeon but work from a dentist isn't?

Last time I went to a dentist I paid £200.

And you miss out that a lot of drugs that are prescribed and paid for (with a fee of £7.20) actually cost less than the fee themselves so they make money on it.
 

JAXvillain

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:wtf: National healthcare is all about costing tax payers exorbitant amounts of money.

it costs less to do preventative maintenance than to let every issue fester until they have to go to the ER. ER visits are obscenely expensive as everyone knows
 

polo

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Tell me about this point of care and what it is just so I'm clear. You mean it's free work from a maxillofacial surgeon but work from a dentist isn't?

Last time I went to a dentist I paid £200.

And you miss out that a lot of drugs that are prescribed and paid for (with a fee of £7.20) actually cost less than the fee themselves so they make money on it.

Cialis is 37 GBP per administration, Enbrel is 79 per administration, Tadalafil is 1600 per administration.

No work is "free", someones gotta pay for it. There is multiple forms given to everyone interested enough to claim back money on both Opitician and Dentistry expenses. Almost every PCT has an NHS dentist as well, at least that's the target.

Simply because you phone a Dentist, make an appointment and pay for it doesn't mean it's not NHS. Who pays for the Dentist's training, infrastructure, clinic? Where does the anaesthetist come from? What standard does he work to?

To have one very MINOR part of medicine outside the remit of the NHS would be a civil service disaster.
 

OzSTEEZ

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I see. I'd be fucked then I guess. But I suppose Republicans would say that's my fault for having non-life threatening medical issues that I occasionally need help with in order to make me a productive tax payer fo rmy country. :)

..................... I love that you said that.