WTF Bad boys, Bad boys, whatcha gonna do

Dory said:
It's not just about believing someone else will help. In these instances it involves power imbalances, possible freeze responses etc. With a veteran cop vs a rookie the power imbalances creates a bystander effect. The police are humans, they're not immune to human responses. Does it suck? Yes. Is it A good enough excuse? No. But in some cases this is why police are complicit. Same reason female officers rarely speak up over male colleagues. The nuance of power imbalance creating fear. The whole thing needs overhauling.

Its the same reason Bill Cosby and Jimmy saville got away with abuse. Power over others and so a fear of speaking up. What power does a rookie have? You fall in line or you get turned on yourself.
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the examples you're giving seem to be about victims of abuse or assault or misconduct not coming forward. that's different, as thr power imbalance is explicit and already being weaponized against them.

but anybody that wasn't already being victimized and allowed it to go on to save their job? because they were worried they might face repercussions so they'd rather let someone else be abused or assaulted or raped or killed? they're dead fucking wrong, and they get no understanding.

power is a continuum, and rookie or no they had a lot more of it than George Floyd did.
 
august said:
the examples you're giving seem to be about victims of abuse or assault or misconduct not coming forward. that's different, as thr power imbalance is explicit and already being weaponized against them.

but anybody that wasn't already being victimized and allowed it to go on to save their job? because they were worried they might face repercussions so they'd rather let someone else be abused or assaulted or raped or killed? they're dead fucking wrong, and they get no understanding.

power is a continuum, and rookie or no they had a lot more of it than George Floyd did.
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They did have more power than him. People are far from perfect and moral. It's not an excuse and the police are culpable but unless they stretch to addressing not just the white privilege and power but the gender imbalances nothing will change. Just because a young graduate had more power than GF, doesn't mean he felt in a position to stand up to a hugely experienced bully. The training needs changing. The force needs changing. Everything needs changing.
 
maybe we'll get another 1992 NYPD style riot where the cops trashed "their own city" to push back against attempts to hold them accountable
 
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57 resigned in disgust because of the treatment of two of their members, who were simply executing orders...


so pushing an elderly man to the ground causing him to bleed profusely on the ground while others marched on by him is “following orders”?

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Maureen said:
57 resigned in disgust because of the treatment of two of their members, who were simply executing orders...


so pushing an elderly man to the ground causing him to bleed profusely on the ground while others marched on by him is “following orders”?

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fuck em all.

In that video too, the military (not sure if nat guard or active) stopped immediately to help the dude. After all the cops marched right past with their billy clubs looking like a militarized gang.
 
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Maureen said:
57 resigned in disgust because of the treatment of two of their members, who were simply executing orders...


so pushing an elderly man to the ground causing him to bleed profusely on the ground while others marched on by him is “following orders”?

ew


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I mean, what would you have done? maybe they were afraid to speak up or do something.
 
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