Thread Money Women(Or Men) Or Power

Sp`ange said:
I have enough.. well, I do want an electric screwdriver for my birthday. After I have that, then I will have everything (tangible) I want.
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Oh sure-- it starts with an electrically fired screwdriver, but what's next? A set of tungsten carbide bits, perhaps? A spare battery? It never ends. Before you know it you'll be demanding some sort of genetically engineered super-whore and a boner pill IV so you can have nonstop sex on top of your giant, Scrooge McDuck style money pool!
 
itburnswhenipee said:
Oh sure-- it starts with an electrically fired screwdriver, but what's next? A set of tungsten carbide bits, perhaps? A spare battery? It never ends. Before you know it you'll be demanding some sort of genetically engineered super-whore and a boner pill IV so you can have nonstop sex on top of your giant, Scrooge McDuck style money pool!
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Sarcasmo said:
Have you seen relationships between poor people? They are often quagmires of abuse, neglect, and regret. Of course there's an exception to every rule. That goes without saying. But statistically it's very convenient that the poorest people usually have the worst lives across the board. How many homeless people have you seen holding hands and smiling? How many poor children in good health have you seen? For that matter, how many healthy poor adults have you seen? There's a chance love is possible, but health and happiness are the bigger issues here. Neither is cheap.

And yet somehow they have plenty of cigarettes, booze and lotto tickets. Go figure.
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I used to know lots of poor people who were perfectly okay. They are called rednecks. And I've only ever known two homeless people. One of them expressed how awesome it was because everything that you get when you are homeless and have nothing is a step up, so it's like every day holds tons of awesome surprises. The other one is addicted to heroin so her life is going to be hell no matter what. But you know, when she was dating a guy worth billions she wasn't happy either. She really did have everything a girl could want but she just wanted drugs. Her relationship was crap. There is no way you can convince me money buys happiness after seeing that.
 
eileenbunny said:
I used to know lots of poor people who were perfectly okay. They are called rednecks. And I've only ever known two homeless people. One of them expressed how awesome it was because everything that you get when you are homeless and have nothing is a step up, so it's like every day holds tons of awesome surprises. The other one is addicted to heroin so her life is going to be hell no matter what. But you know, when she was dating a guy worth billions she wasn't happy either. She really did have everything a girl could want but she just wanted drugs. Her relationship was crap. There is no way you can convince me money buys happiness after seeing that.
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Exceptional anecdotes aside, go to all of the really, really happy poor people you know and ask them if they'd like to be rich. Oh and I told you so.
 
Being strapped for cash and scraping by is a huge stressor on relationships. Been there, done it. Before some asshole/jerkoff pipes up, I've literally been there and it can destroy. /first world problems
 
Ive been stupid poor before, and beside from want of food, I was pretty happy, but at the time I only had my self to worry about, so if I went hungry it was no big deal.
I have a family now, and that shit no longer applies.
 
Sarcasmo said:
Exceptional anecdotes aside, go to all of the really, really happy poor people you know and ask them if they'd like to be rich. Oh and I told you so.
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Wanting to be rich doesn't make you unhappy so I don't understand your argument. I want to be healthier but that doesn't mean I'm unhappy with the way things are now. A lot of people have wants, but wanting doesn't mean misery.
 
eileenbunny said:
Wanting to be rich doesn't make you unhappy so I don't understand your argument. I want to be healthier but that doesn't mean I'm unhappy with the way things are now. A lot of people have wants, but wanting doesn't mean misery.
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I think what you're missing here is that being flat broke and poor as fuck creates obstacles that interfere with most realms of conceptual happiness on a daily basis. Struggling to pay bills, even with love, flat out sucks and creates turmoil because it's a rocky way to live. You and Dan claim to be poor white trash but I think you're glamorizing it from afar due to bohemian ideals. I've mentioned this here before but I've been on food stamps as a kid of a young single mother and been on private jets as an adult. I've seen the far end of both spectrums and you're kidding yourself if you think paupers can get by just as happily as millionaires. No, money doesn't equal happiness but it removes a large stressor in life which is a cause of friction to most people at one point or another.
 
shamwow said:
I think what you're missing here is that being flat broke and poor as fuck creates obstacles that interfere with most realms of conceptual happiness on a daily basis. Struggling to pay bills, even with love, flat out sucks and creates turmoil because it's a rocky way to live. You and Dan claim to be poor white trash but I think you're glamorizing it from afar due to bohemian ideals. I've mentioned this here before but I've been on food stamps as a kid of a young single mother and been on private jets as an adult. I've seen the far end of both spectrums and you're kidding yourself if you think paupers can get by just as happily as millionaires. No, money doesn't equal happiness but it removes a large stressor in life which is a cause of friction to most people at one point or another.
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Dan and I are not poor and I even stated earlier that we are comfortable. We certainly aren't rich but we have much more than we need to get by. We are happy. Growing up my family wasn't very well off though. My parents got to make lots of tough decisions about what bills to pay when (doctor or electricity for example). I cannot remember a single time where anyone argued about it though. It just was what it was. We still had a good time together. I know that not everyone has my experiences but most of the people that lived around me lived in a similar way but I can't remember a lot of very unhappy people. I think we place way too much emphasis on the fancy car, designer clothes, bigger houses, better electronics to make us happy. I'm just saying that's not where it's at. I'll take the people I care about over a big house any day. I'm not saying that having a lot makes you a bad person incapable of love either. I'm not saying it makes you a better person or more enviable either. Happiness comes from inside you. You choose to be happy. Money has nothing to do with it.
 
eileenbunny said:
Dan and I are not poor and I even stated earlier that we are comfortable. We certainly aren't rich but we have much more than we need to get by. We are happy. Growing up my family wasn't very well off though. My parents got to make lots of tough decisions about what bills to pay when (doctor or electricity for example). I cannot remember a single time where anyone argued about it though. It just was what it was. We still had a good time together. I know that not everyone has my experiences but most of the people that lived around me lived in a similar way but I can't remember a lot of very unhappy people. I think we place way too much emphasis on the fancy car, designer clothes, bigger houses, better electronics to make us happy. I'm just saying that's not where it's at. I'll take the people I care about over a big house any day. I'm not saying that having a lot makes you a bad person incapable of love either. I'm not saying it makes you a better person or more enviable either. Happiness comes from inside you. You choose to be happy. Money has nothing to do with it.
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I agree with Eileen. When we were in Jamaica there are way more, what we consider poor, than middle class or rich. Those "poor" people are outwardly happier than people in America will ever be.

Simpler lives make happier lives. Yes, money can help... But it's not always the solution.
 
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