Hawt No Taxpayer Funding for Abortion Act

Nevermind the emotional scarring and possible complications.

Abortions are typically done with the pill method these days; rarely are there complications. Less likely there is emotional scarring as severe as done the old way.
 
Abortions are typically done with the pill method these days; rarely are there complications. Less likely there is emotional scarring as severe as done the old way.

i'm not saying we should do this by any means...

but i wonder if the only method allowed was a coat hanger while the chick was awake and watching and leaving the fetus for her to dispose of would make people be safer about sex. :eek:
 
btw, an interesting quote stolen from the Fatwallet Finance forum...




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yea, and who's leading us down that path? really, we'd survive a lot longer if it was the states choices. one state at a time would go back to step 1 instead of us all ending up at step 8 at the same time.
 
i'm not saying we should do this by any means...

but i wonder if the only method allowed was a coat hanger while the chick was awake and watching and leaving the fetus for her to dispose of would make people be safer about sex. :eek:
There was a time it was like that. Lots of women died because of the backroom shops that were doing the abortions under the table.
 
yea, and who's leading us down that path? really, we'd survive a lot longer if it was the states choices. one state at a time would go back to step 1 instead of us all ending up at step 8 at the same time.

I don't think you've find many intelligent people who would argue that the States should have more rights, as the Framers intended.
 
i'm not saying we should do this by any means...

but i wonder if the only method allowed was a coat hanger while the chick was awake and watching and leaving the fetus for her to dispose of would make people be safer about sex. :eek:

The shit kills people slowly and painfully and they still don't use protection..
 
The thing is when the "Framers" were alive people tended to stay in one place. There weren't cars or airplanes to travel from state-to-state. Plus you couldn't instantly communicate with people in different places via telephone or internet.

EDIT: The post was in response to Fly's. I forgot to quote it.
 
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yea yea, i saw 'if these walls could talk' or whatever.

i still think free mandatory tubil ligation with any abortion paid for by the state would be a good method. its reversible for whenever they do want to have kids or are financially ready to afford kids and to afford the reversal procedure.

don't get me wrong, i'm all for abortion simply because there's a significant number who would pump out crack babies with severe health/disability problems. fetal alcohol syndrome and the likes... why not make it a more effective method of BC though? i'm even all for second chances. on the second abortion, require the tubes be tied. the people who we don't want to have kids, will probably be all for it.
 
JEFFERSON CITY | The Missouri House has passed a bill allowing drug tests of welfare recipients and applicants if the state suspects they're using illegal drugs.

The House bill would deny Temporary Assistance for Needy Families benefits for one year to suspected drug users if they failed the test given by the Department of Social Services.

Monday's vote of 116-27 in the House sends the measure to the Senate, where a committee is considering similar legislation.

Supporters say taxpayers don't want their money to fund a person's addiction. Opponents of the bill say it does not help addicts get treatment to get rid of their habit.

not sure why people would oppose this. also not sure what disillusioned world people live in that think people on public assistance are somehow using the money to get treatment. if they fail the test, this mysterious treatment opponents think all drug users are going through obviously isn't working...

all these systems have serious flaws, and nobody ever wants to try something different or more radical... they just want to keep the status quo and not rock the boat while our resources are slowly drained...

oh but liam thinks if we don't feed the addictions their children will starve and they'll go on a mass crime spree robbing liquor stores and pharmacies. more than likely they'll just move to your state.
 
The thing is when the "Framers" were alive people tended to stay in one place. There weren't cars or airplanes to travel from state-to-state. Plus you couldn't instantly communicate with people in different places via telephone or internet.

EDIT: The post was in response to Fly's. I forgot to quote it.

so? they also didn't have a bunch of social services and everyone got along fine. there were also only about 2.5 million people in a much smaller area to manage... not 300+ million reaching from coast to coast.
 
not sure why people would oppose this. also not sure what disillusioned world people live in that think people on public assistance are somehow using the money to get treatment. if they fail the test, this mysterious treatment opponents think all drug users are going through obviously isn't working...

all these systems have serious flaws, and nobody ever wants to try something different or more radical... they just want to keep the status quo and not rock the boat while our resources are slowly drained...

oh but liam thinks if we don't feed the addictions their children will starve and they'll go on a mass crime spree robbing liquor stores and pharmacies. more than likely they'll just move to your state.

I know I'd rob a store before my family starved.
 
yea yea, i saw 'if these walls could talk' or whatever.

i still think free mandatory tubil ligation with any abortion paid for by the state would be a good method. its reversible for whenever they do want to have kids or are financially ready to afford kids and to afford the reversal procedure.

don't get me wrong, i'm all for abortion simply because there's a significant number who would pump out crack babies with severe health/disability problems. fetal alcohol syndrome and the likes... why not make it a more effective method of BC though? i'm even all for second chances. on the second abortion, require the tubes be tied. the people who we don't want to have kids, will probably be all for it.

I'd never make it mandatory, but I agree it should be an option. Our society considers pregnancy "scared" and "holy" and crap though. I actually tried to get a tubil ligation at age 20, then at age 22 because I don't like kids, I don't want any, and my period is killer and a tubil ligation would help with that and I was told; "You're young, you'll change your mind."
 
so? they also didn't have a bunch of social services and everyone got along fine. there were also only about 2.5 million people in a much smaller area to manage... not 300+ million reaching from coast to coast.

The world is a different place, making "states rights" a much different thing.
 
I know I'd rob a store before my family starved.

so that someone else's family could starve? what if the clerk refused to give you the money; would you kill for it?

just because you would doesn't mean others would. plenty would beg instead.

but if an individual is in such a position that they can't even feed their child then that individual has no business having custody of that child.
 
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The world is a different place, making "states rights" a much different thing.

ah... such a generic meaningless argument.

i think with such open communication and the fact that people are always on the move nowadays, that states rights are more important than ever!

wooo... look at that.
 
ah... such a generic meaningless argument.

i think with such open communication and the fact that people are always on the move nowadays, that states rights are more important than ever!

wooo... look at that.

It's not "meaningless" but rather accurate. Not to go off-topic; but that's one of the things in the big gay marriage debate. What happens when gay couples who get married in one state move to another. Are they still married or not?