Anniversary of Hiroshima bombing

b_sinning said:
There was some brutal fighting in the Pacific. I wonder if it follows a group of Marines or the Navy. I've been watching some of the stories of the Big E on history channel. That is the Enterprise Aircraft carrier and the battle fleet that was with it. It was in the middle of some of the worst navy battles of the war.

I had a great uncle that was on a few of the ships that was in that fleet. He was discharged after the 3rd boat he was on sunk. He was considered unlucky by the Navy. He thought he was really lucky becuase twice he was in the water for a few days a survived.
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the eps covering guadalcanal will be epic and the sinking of the indianapolis when 700 men were eaten by sharks and/or drowned will be crazy too
 
It's crazy how some shadows were burned onto walls from the blast.


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ZRH said:
Japan couldve lasted years o_O We wanted to avoid a d-day type landing against an entirely hostile population.

Japan was done for after the philipenes ( cant spell ). And whoever posted the other thing about us being like them, it wasnt great humanitarian achievement but it wasnt genocide/torture etc., instead of dropping a lot of really small bombs we dropped a couple of big ones.
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Although I know its hotly contested, but according to what little I've read on the subject, many people think/thought that the war against the Japan was already won - without dropping the bombs.

Since you never comment on things you know little about, I'm sure you'll come back and tell me how wrong that is.
 
fly said:
Although I know its hotly contested, but according to what little I've read on the subject, many people think/thought that the war against the Japan was already won - without dropping the bombs.

Since you never comment on things you know little about, I'm sure you'll come back and tell me how wrong that is.
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Since it didn't happen there's no way of knowing, but it's entirely possible that a mainland invasion of Japan would have ultimately cost more lives than the bombs did. There's also no way of knowing if Japan would have adopted a "fight to the last man/woman/child" policy against our invasion forces.
 
I don't believe Japan would have surrendered until ALL hope was lost. Remember the kamikazes. Suicide for honor. Also recall the fellow who remained at his isolated Pacific island post until the 1970s. They had to dig up his old commanding officer in order to convince him the war was over.

Sinking a bunch of their ships or winning battles in scattered archipelagos wouldn't necessarily have compelled them to surrender. Delivering a crippling blow to their homeland industrial bases in an unprecendented display of firepower would have. And did. I can't conclusively say either way, but I know how tenacious they were.

However I also wouldn't put it above our government to want a first hand, wartime example of a nuclear bomb whether it was necessary or not. People are fuckers.

Either way I'm not losing sleep over it. Humans are a dime a dozen, and again, they're fuckers. If you don't want to be obliterated, don't launch surprise attacks on people. Everyone knows civilians die in war. They always have.
 
No kidding. You can pretty much blame the Japanese leadership for all of it. They put their civilians in harms way, and they refused to curb the sexual perversions of their horribly repressed culture by providing tamer outlets.
 
Sarcasmo said:
No kidding. You can pretty much blame the Japanese leadership for all of it. They put their civilians in harms way, and they refused to curb the sexual perversions of their horribly repressed culture by providing tamer outlets.
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Are you sure the sexual perversions aren't simply due to the effects of radiation poisoning passed down?
 
Well that's my PERSONAL belief, but it hasn't caught hold in the mainstream yet. Once it does I will revise my statement.
 
Sarcasmo said:
No kidding. You can pretty much blame the Japanese leadership for all of it. They put their civilians in harms way, and they refused to curb the sexual perversions of their horribly repressed culture by providing tamer outlets.
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A sexually repressed society? Wow. Geez, it almost seems like that statement pertains today. In the US. Thanks to the religious right.

Definition: See nipplegate

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The religious right is itself sexually repressed. The rest of America is not. We've been fucking with hats off for a long time.
 
Sarcasmo said:
The religious right is itself sexually repressed. The rest of America is not. We've been fucking with hats off for a long time.
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I disagree. They are doing their best to impose their will on the rest of us, because ya know - they know what's best for everyone.
 
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