those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither /ben franklin
I'd sacrifice all of my freedoms for one night of sweaty sex with Yamileth and Influx.
Who's Wearing Black Today??
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I'd sacrifice all of my freedoms for one night of sweaty sex with Yamileth and Influx.
now as has been suggested about me and flynavy on this, how do YOU know without ASSUMPTION they weren't merely making a statement and not being genuinely threatening as if to say "we want to hang black people"?
you don't
I know, right? he's probably a 110# scrawny white dude himself
I live and work in one of the most racially diverse cities in the country and I love it here wonko...can you say the same?
No.
Pointing a gun is a direct threat because of the extremely minute actions required to shoot that gun compared to the relatively extreme effort required to hang an individual.
You don't have to KNOW anything. That's how it works. It just has to be concluded that they probably were.
bah, you're a single dad who has no freedom already...not much sacrifice there champ
You would too. Don't lie.
No.
And you say that because you assume every person is capable of putting up the fight needed to prevent two drunk rednecks from using their noose.
the fact that they made no overt actions or even left the interior of their truck for that matter tends to lend them the benefit of the doubt in the eyes of the law imo
one was an underage kid and they were up against a whole bus load of people...suicide would have been a better alternative to facing the beating they would have gotten
Hell, they ran a risk of getting a beating just by driving around that group. And to bring this full circle, that is the exact reason they were arrested.
No.
I have never seen a penal code describe an assault or even a firearms offense based on the actual mechanics of the weapon. I've only seen one based on whether or not a person threatens another with imminent bodily injury.
Even going up against a frail 102 year old woman it still takes a hell of a lot more effort to hang that person with a noose than it does to pull the trigger of a gun.
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That's the pertinent word. It's because of the mechanics of a gun that pointing one presents a threat of imminent bodily injury.
A noose on the back of a pickup truck presents no threat of imminent bodily injury.
'Imminent' is the pertinent word for only two criminal charges. Namely assault and deadly conduct.
But that has nothing to do with anything. Even looking only to your scenario, a person trying to hang that 102 year old woman is the exact same threat as someone firing a gun. Why? Because the desired result is the death of that person. That one victim might have a better chance of surviving by fighting off the attacker has nothing at all to do with the situation.
It wasn't my scenario to begin with. The original point was that holding a noose is as much of a threatening gesture as pointing a gun. I explained that there is a very distinct difference in the potential for bodily harm that puts those two situations in completely different ballparks.
In other words, me standing in front of a 102 year old black lady -one that may have seen her friends lynched and hung back in the day - while holding a noose is not an imminent threat to the degree of pointing a gun at her. I should be arrested for pointing the gun at her but not for holding the noose, regardless of how it makes her feel.
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pointing a gun at someone implies intended usage...a noose on the back of a truck does not...it wasn't even in their hands!
I could just as easily kill someone with a spork...if that's nearby me, is it a danger to anyone?