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I'm in no way inclined to be a brexiteer dear. I'm planning on leaving this country and its backwards ways as soon as I can for less xenophobic shores.

I never suggested you were. Only an idiot would support Brexit and you are not one, obviously.

I almost had an amazing job working for Radio Free Europe(just like the REM song) in Prague a few years ago but Trump cut off the funding. Painfully watched this dream job slip through my fingers. No taxes and 6 figure paycheck. Free flights home a few times a year. We went to Prague for 2 weeks to scope it out. (Best trip of our lives)

To complete the story, we would love to get the fuck out of this country as well.
 
I never suggested you were. Only an idiot would support Brexit and you are not one, obviously.

I almost had an amazing job working for Radio Free Europe(just like the REM song) in Prague a few years ago but Trump cut off the funding. Painfully watched this dream job slip through my fingers. No taxes and 6 figure paycheck. Free flights home a few times a year. We went to Prague for 2 weeks to scope it out. (Best trip of our lives)

To complete the story, we would love to get the fuck out of this country as well.
Oh, misinterpreted your post in that case!

We went to Prague in 2019 I think. Been jonesing for the dark beer ever since but there's none to be found. Prague was alright, wasn't a huge fan but that's just me. I'm not hugely into city breaks but I would like to go to Barcelona when this shit is over with. Doing as much travelling as possible is on the list!
 
Oh, misinterpreted your post in that case!

We went to Prague in 2019 I think. Been jonesing for the dark beer ever since but there's none to be found. Prague was alright, wasn't a huge fan but that's just me. I'm not hugely into city breaks but I would like to go to Barcelona when this shit is over with. Doing as much travelling as possible is on the list!

Barcelona's pretty cool as well. Had many blasts there.

The most attractive thing about Prague was the job and perks. We just wanted the fuck out of ATL
 
Barcelona's pretty cool as well. Had many blasts there.

The most attractive thing about Prague was the job and perks. We just wanted the fuck out of ATL
Fair. There was much to admire about Prague then it's different having a vaca compared to scoping out for potential living. I need to visit Vancouver or Toronto at some point to look at a move.
 
BOTH SIDES ARE NOT THE SAME. STOP PROPAGATING THIS FALSE EQUIVALENCY.

One side wants to prop up corporate interests FOREVER and start wars to fuel the military-industrial complex. The other side wants to give free healthcare and free education. Possibly UBI. Stop the nonsense you are spreading.
fuck the GOP but I don't think that's a fair description of the Democratic party, either. while it's true that some want that, there are plenty that not only don't want that, they blame those who do for Dem losses.
 
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fuck the GOP but I don't think that's a fair description of the Democratic party, either. while it's true that some want that, there are plenty that not only don't want that, they blame those who do for Dem losses.
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Still false equivalency. Makes my blood bury.
 
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Once you get to the federal level all they care about is staying in power and making money.

I've actually talked to 4 ex-congressmen in my life. As in after they were out for a while. Well, 2 R's and 1 D personally in the 90's and 2000's and was with my Dad when he was visiting with another D in the 80's. None of these guys lasted too long up there and all 4 of them said slightly differing versions of basically the same thing.

That is, plenty of people, from both parties, run for office, want to participate in government, want to do whatever they think is good for the country or will make it better, etc., and go to Washington with good intentions. Then when they get there as the new guy, the senior members and party bosses pretty much tell them, maybe in more flowery language, but basically ok rookie, you're gonna do this and not do that, you're gonna back these bills but not those bills, you're gonna raise X amount of funds for the party every quarter or year or however they measure it, you're gonna vote this way on these issues and that way on those issues, etc., and if they don't play along, or get uppity and try to push their own ideas, or just not bring in enough donations for the party, they'll just shut them down. They won't get many co-sponsors for their bills and even if they do they'll see they never get out of committee. They won't get as much or any party funding for their re-election campaign, and are just left to wither. They'll find somebody to back that will toe the line.

Pretty damn hard to make any real difference outside what the parties already wanted to push anyway.
They have such a lock on the whole process and function it's insanity. And it is most certainly all about the money. BOTH SIDES.
 
There ARE people getting into the house and Senate that are as far right or further than Bernie. It's not both sides. We will soon see if they can make shit happen.
 
I've actually talked to 4 ex-congressmen in my life. As in after they were out for a while. Well, 2 R's and 1 D personally in the 90's and 2000's and was with my Dad when he was visiting with another D in the 80's. None of these guys lasted too long up there and all 4 of them said slightly differing versions of basically the same thing.

That is, plenty of people, from both parties, run for office, want to participate in government, want to do whatever they think is good for the country or will make it better, etc., and go to Washington with good intentions. Then when they get there as the new guy, the senior members and party bosses pretty much tell them, maybe in more flowery language, but basically ok rookie, you're gonna do this and not do that, you're gonna back these bills but not those bills, you're gonna raise X amount of funds for the party every quarter or year or however they measure it, you're gonna vote this way on these issues and that way on those issues, etc., and if they don't play along, or get uppity and try to push their own ideas, or just not bring in enough donations for the party, they'll just shut them down. They won't get many co-sponsors for their bills and even if they do they'll see they never get out of committee. They won't get as much or any party funding for their re-election campaign, and are just left to wither. They'll find somebody to back that will toe the line.

Pretty damn hard to make any real difference outside what the parties already wanted to push anyway.
They have such a lock on the whole process and function it's insanity. And it is most certainly all about the money. BOTH SIDES.

None of these career politicians retire poor.
 
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