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gottoys?

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Tonights dinner conversation topic was on gaming bots. This really interests me , don't know why must be the programmer in me.

Well it seems you can create these bots, build up a RPG character to high levels and then SELL them on ebay or elsewhere. You can create and sell bots or the characters.

Does anyone here know anyone that has done this (sell or buy) or have an opinion on this? I thinking that's pretty pathetic to be that lazy you would BUY a character, but I am not an online gamer.

From my standpoint I want to know 'how' this is done - the programming. Tony says C# is the popular language for WOW bots or you can use macros.



On Ebay:
Starting bid: US $200.00

You are bidding on a great account. A level 60 Warrior on the Magtheridon server. With full rares and a great talent tree you'll be feared by many people in the PvP realm. Known to many people on the server this character will easily find people to join him on his Molten Core and Blackwing Lair runs.
 
this is crazy .... now I found this on ebay. Will some fool really pay over 1K for a character?

Current bid: US $1,250.00

History: 3 bids (US $1,200.00 starting bid)

This auction is for an account with 1 level 60 warrior, 36 hunter and 35 rogue. These are alliance characters all residing on the PVP server Bonechewer. The price is negotiable depending on interest.

The warrior has 6500 health, 9000 armor unbuffed. Comes with a full set of fire resist gear, and the beginnings of a nature resist set that will be useful in the coming AQ instance. The account itself is a collectors edition, so as a bonus you will have access to the benefits (ie the free pet) that this comes along with.

In terms of what this character is capable of, you have unlimited access to PVE content, any guild will take you in because of the gear alone. If you want to PVP, the damage the legendary sword is capable of is far better than any rank 14 warrior. There are a total of 2 thunderfury's on the alliance side of this server, this being one of them.

The warrior has tanked all high level bosses in the game including Nefarian, and his gear (as well as included enchants) are as follows:
 
Sorry, don't buy it. You can only automate so much without some human interaction and care/feeding of a character. Besides, if you get caught selling a character or are suspected of using bots to boost your character, they can kick you off.
 
theacoustician said:
Sorry, don't buy it. You can only automate so much without some human interaction and care/feeding of a character. Besides, if you get caught selling a character or are suspected of using bots to boost your character, they can kick you off.
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See that's what I what to know 'how this works'? I am thinking algorithms and Tony is explaining walking coordinates this way past the playing field killing something and walking that way in coordinates. He has never built a bot either.

We were trying to discuss how you could build a bot that doesn't get caught. As you stated most bots get caught.
 
Given a very simple set of automatic in-game macros and an outside program piping commands to the game's interface you could make some effective ones.

Most experiance and shizzle is gained through incredibly repetious patterns (find monster, kill it, repeat). So you go somewhere where the monsters are easy, set up some autoheal and sleep, and set it loose.

Note: The above post contains very little actual information or things based on firsthand experiance. I don't care enough about online games to actual waste time trying to figure out how to cheat at them. It consists entirely of information from my little brother.
 
This is almost always against the EULA. They will spank you and put you in one of those block things so people can throw fruit at you.
 
gottoys? said:
See that's what I what to know 'how this works'? I am thinking algorithms and Tony is explaining walking coordinates this way past the playing field killing something and walking that way in coordinates. He has never built a bot either.

We were trying to discuss how you could build a bot that doesn't get caught. As you stated most bots get caught.
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See this is where I think the entirely automated bot thing is BS. MMO games are populated by people. Lots of people. You can't possibly script for all the weird ass shit people do, especially people that are heavy into MMO's. On top of that, as I understand it, its nearly impossible to progress in WoW unless you're part of a guild. Unless the guild is getting a take of your profits for gold/item/character farming, I don't think they'd be too down with it. The game's whole draw seems to be more of a social interaction tool than a traditional game from what I can gather from those who play it. When you have a dynamic like that, scripting would be impossible to pull off.

Now I do see how maybe 3-4 people could shepard a guild full of bots (say 20-30), work together to level them all up, then sell them off. You could keep them from doing dumb shit and if GM's stroll by you or the other shepards could provide real human interaction to con them.
 
theacoustician said:
Now I do see how maybe 3-4 people could shepard a guild full of bots (say 20-30), work together to level them all up, then sell them off. You could keep them from doing dumb shit and if GM's stroll by you or the other shepards could provide real human interaction to con them.
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there was a killer article on this in wired magazine back in the day - the chinese sweat shops were setting up guilds on world of warcraft and running them through the molten core (hardest area in WoW atm) driven mainly by bots - anyways a chinese dude was hired simply to monitor the groups progression and to step in if any GMs (admin) question them - since he had to be awake the entire time it was happening, and jump between computers to take care of individual player issues, it didn't always work out
 
FlamingGlory said:
So you go somewhere where the monsters are easy, set up some autoheal and sleep, and set it loose.
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that's what I heard .... they use bots because you have to spend so much 'time' on a level to get to the next. So you get these bots to level for you while you sleep. CHEATING!

I'm thinking why play the game if you need to cheat.

Tony also tells me that on diablo people would sell there treasures. Is that crazy or what? Doesn't sound like a game anymore.
 
gottoys? said:
that's what I heard .... they use bots because you have to spend so much 'time' on a level to get to the next. So you get these bots to level for you while you sleep. CHEATING!

I'm thinking why play the game if you need to cheat.

Tony also tells me that on diablo people would sell there treasures. Is that crazy or what? Doesn't sound like a game anymore.
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it's not so much the lvl of the character that attracts people, it's the gold and the items, the lvl is gonna max out regardless because you're farming so much for loot
 
elpmis said:
there was a killer article on this in wired magazine back in the day - the chinese sweat shops were setting up guilds on world of warcraft and running them through the molten core (hardest area in WoW atm) driven mainly by bots - anyways a chinese dude was hired simply to monitor the groups progression and to step in if any GMs (admin) question them - since he had to be awake the entire time it was happening, and jump between computers to take care of individual player issues, it didn't always work out
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I think we found a job for gottoys? son.
 
I'm not one for using bots but back in the day (2001) I made about $1,000 in a month ebaying items I found in Diablo II in my spare time. I just tweaked a character with +% magic find items and ran the elite monsters/bosses over and over. In any given hour you could usually find an item that sold for 30-50 bucks. Some would sell for 75-125. Not a bad gig to earn some beer money in college.

I did it all legit, never sold dupes or hacks. I only sold items that I found personally. Then after about a month the "market" on the server got flooded with dupes and hacked items and even real items. So of course the law of economics says, a huge supply with low demand = worthless prices so it was no longer worth my time; but it sure was great while it lasted.

Most of the people who bought my items were middle aged housewives from the midwest. I wonder if their husbands ever asked:

What is this charge to paypal?

Oh that's nothing honey, I just needed to buy the Windforce bow for my Amazon.

Damnit woman, at least buy some porn or something useful instead of this crap.
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