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HipHugHer

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The way the meme is worded is misleading.

SHe voted against a bill that would allow the government to seize life insurance payouts to terrorists’ families.

Sometimes, the terrorists’ families are victims also.
I don't have a problem with that.

They gonna suicide themselves or get themselves killed some other way in the process of trying to murder other people, fuck them, no money.

The govt should spread it amongst the victims families though. Not just keep it or let their cronies in the insurance companies keep it.
 

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I don't have a problem with that.

They gonna suicide themselves or get themselves killed some other way in the process of trying to murder other people, fuck them, no money.

The govt should spread it amongst the victims families though. Not just keep it or let their cronies in the insurance companies keep it.
I just know how I’d feel if my dad had a life insurance policy and then did terrorist stuff that I had no control over, yet I’d be the one getting screwed.
 
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I don't have a problem with that.

They gonna suicide themselves or get themselves killed some other way in the process of trying to murder other people, fuck them, no money.

The govt should spread it amongst the victims families though. Not just keep it or let their cronies in the insurance companies keep it.
You don't have a problem with it, and yet the PATRIOT act says that if you pass gas in the incorrect direction in the airport, you're a terrorist.

"Terrorist" and "terrorism" became very malleable charges after 9/11.
 

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That's like calling you a conservative.
Ironically, I do consider myself cut from fundamentally conservative cloth. Right up there with that raging pinko Theodore Roosevelt.

Theodore Roosevelt said:
“There once was a time in history when the limitation of governmental power meant increasing liberty for the people. In the present day the limitation of governmental power, of governmental action, means the enslavement of the people by the great corporations who can only be held in check through the extension of governmental power.”
 
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I just know how I’d feel if my dad had a life insurance policy and then did terrorist stuff that I had no control over, yet I’d be the one getting screwed.
OK then if he does it in the name of Allah it falls under the Act of God clause, no payout.

Lot of life policies don't payout for suicide either. Suicide bomber = no payout.
 
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OK then if he does it in the name of Allah it falls under the Act of God clause, no payout.

Lot of life policies don't payout for suicide either. Suicide bomber = no payout.
Yeah, that sucks for the innocent families of either.

Insurance companies are evil squared.
 

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You don't have a problem with it, and yet the PATRIOT act says that if you pass gas in the incorrect direction in the airport, you're a terrorist.

"Terrorist" and "terrorism" became very malleable charges after 9/11.
Now that's a valid point. Can toss the unpatriot act and DHS and ice too while we're at it. Some of that libertarian shrink the government and abolish alphabet agencies stuff ain't so bad, eh?
Why stop there, let's keep going.
 
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As long as we're quoting Teddy now...



In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person's becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American...There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people.
 

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Yeah, that sucks for the innocent families of either.

Insurance companies are evil squared.
If the suicide bomber was the one that bought the policy then it would be unfair to allow them create the conditions the policy has to be paid on. That would be like me blowing out the engine on my car(not insurance to be had) and then fire-bombing it so I could get a complete payout on a vandalism claim. Life insurance almost always has a suicide clause or a 1-3 year period before it would be covered.

I agree it sucks for the family. I'm sure some people do that intentionally, just to FUCK their family.
Evil as fuck - I love doing Plaintiff's work for that reason.
 
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If the suicide bomber was the one that bought the policy then it would be unfair to allow them create the conditions the policy has to be paid on. That would be like me blowing out the engine on my car(not insurance to be had) and then fire-bombing it so I could get a complete payout on a vandalism claim. Life insurance almost always has a suicide clause or a 1-3 year period before it would be covered.
and if that's the case it would already be covered by suicide clauses, right? so was this bill meant to address situations where that wasn't the case? this sounds like snarky questions but I genuinely haven't had time to read the bill & I'm asking in good faith; I know sometimes new bills DO cover stuff that was already covered just to make a statement (e.g. the one WI tried to pull about saving aborted babies that survive) so I can't assume
 

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If the suicide bomber was the one that bought the policy then it would be unfair to allow them create the conditions the policy has to be paid on. That would be like me blowing out the engine on my car(not insurance to be had) and then fire-bombing it so I could get a complete payout on a vandalism claim. Life insurance almost always has a suicide clause or a 1-3 year period before it would be covered.

I agree it sucks for the family. I'm sure some people do that intentionally, just to FUCK their family.
Evil as fuck - I love doing Plaintiff's work for that reason.
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