CO2 "The Truth" and an Ice age

Atan Nolme

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CO2 is not the nemesis that the warming alarmists would have us believe.

If one were to script a Global Warming scam one would have to be a knot-head or brain-dead to pick Carbon Dioxide (CO2) as the lead factor.


Of course we know now that CO2 was rolled out as the "poster child" nemesis against the environment. It was meant to get us hysterical enough to plead with our politicians to exact a tax on our carbon footprints so that we can save the planet earth. But it's turning out that the CO2 "poster child" has significant problems. Despite the fact that Carbon is a part of the CO2 molecule, the atmospheric science of CO2 directly contradicts what the AGW alarmists are trying to sell us. Promoting CO2 as the environmental monkey on our back is absolutely ludicrous. CO2 is friend to all life, not a foe........



Real science. ABSOLUTELY blows the global warming myth out of the water. Unfortunately, it's never read by the hand-wringin', bed-wettin', eco-nailbiters. Do they just WANT to be terrified?

I'd say let 'em suffer, 'cept they're not content to suffer alone. Or with other like-minded individuals. Their "suffering" and "sacrifice" always seems to include me, too.



From the Article:
..........current CO2 levels hover around 385 parts per million (ppm), a relatively minor constituent of earth's entire atmosphere -- less than 4/100ths of 1% of all gases present.

Nevertheless, Anthropogenic (man-made) Global Warming (AGW) proponents demand that unless we immediately reduce the amount of CO2 in the earth's atmosphere to less than 350 ppm, we (that is mankind) will cause huge and irreversible damage to the earth.

Historically, and at one significant point indeed, CO2 atmospheric concentrations were much, much higher, 6,000 plus ppm. And guess what? The earth was more than just fine. It was incredibly filled with life. This fact seems to fall on deaf ears when talking to Global Warming protagonists.



You and I control the Earth's climate 'bout as much as we control the sun and her spots.The spots have their own cycle.


"The Truth" :fly: tell us that there is a coming Ice Age.
 
I was talking to Fly about this yesterday-ish. I just finished the book State of Fear and it opened my eyes on the concept of global warming and how unlikely it is or how unlikely it is that we can even have enough information to even study it.

Documenting weather changes goes back... like a century or two?



The world is CONSTANTLY changing; why should we worry?
 
Right. So we should just continue business as usualy, and continue to consume resources and trample over over the environment as we have done, because, in a closed ecosystem where the primary industrial resource is non-renewable, and where the resultant polution contaminates the ecosystem we live in so it's like shitting where we sleep, it makes complete sense.

I honestly don't understand why the simple minded out there are so drawn to fighting a more ecologically minded age.
 
Right. So we should just continue business as usualy, and continue to consume resources and trample over over the environment as we have done, because, in a closed ecosystem where the primary industrial resource is non-renewable, and where the resultant polution contaminates the ecosystem we live in so it's like shitting where we sleep, it makes complete sense.

I honestly don't understand why the simple minded out there are so drawn to fighting a more ecologically minded age.

I'm not cool with the pollution; we should definitely be mindful of what we do. The fact that we are throwing around the term "global warming" like it is the apocalypse is a bit of an exaggeration of the term.
 
Huh... whargarbl followed to a link to pravda.ru. You might as well have cited the Weekly World News.

/nuthin' to contribute to the thread beyond calling out the uselessness of the link he posted. Carry on...
 
Right. So we should just continue business as usualy, and continue to consume resources and trample over over the environment as we have done, because, in a closed ecosystem where the primary industrial resource is non-renewable, and where the resultant polution contaminates the ecosystem we live in so it's like shitting where we sleep, it makes complete sense.

I honestly don't understand why the simple minded out there are so drawn to fighting a more ecologically minded age.

Yes because if I or somebody else disagrees with you. We must eco-holocaust deniers. You and Robert F. Kennedy Jr. need to get over yourselves. :rolleyes:

I'm not cool with the pollution; we should definitely be mindful of what we do. The fact that we are throwing around the term "global warming" like it is the apocalypse is a bit of an exaggeration of the term.

Environmentalism as a religion

Huh... whargarbl followed to a link to pravda.ru. You might as well have cited the Weekly World News.

/nuthin' to contribute to the thread beyond calling out the uselessness of the link he posted. Carry on...

Which is why I put The Truth in quotation marks and used the :fly: smile. :p
 
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Huh... whargarbl followed to a link to pravda.ru. You might as well have cited the Weekly World News.

/nuthin' to contribute to the thread beyond calling out the uselessness of the link he posted. Carry on...


Bat-Boy is world renowned for his credibility as a new source.


The global warming alarmists are a just a bunch of fearmongers. All the deniers are toolbags as well.
Yes, we need to control our pollution levels, and better manage our natural recources, But the planets not gonna die in the next 2 years.
 
Bat-Boy is world renowned for his credibility as a new source.


The global warming alarmists are a just a bunch of fearmongers. All the deniers are toolbags as well.
Yes, we need to control our pollution levels, and better manage our natural recources, But the planets not gonna die in the next 2 years.

I don't think anyone who is worried about global warming is worried about earth dying. Earth isn't going anywere.

It's just those of us who live in a precariously balanced ecosystem that slight fluctuations can throw the entire thing into turmoil who are a little sketched out at the moment.
 
From the Article:
..........current CO2 levels hover around 385 parts per million (ppm), a relatively minor constituent of earth's entire atmosphere -- less than 4/100ths of 1% of all gases present.


That is the most retarded stat I've ever seen. So lets put 4/100 of 1% of VX nerve gas into the atmosphere. WHO CARES, ITS SO SMALL!!!

And in the end, no one fucking knows. Either side. We simply don't have enough data points to solve this crap.
 
I am here to educate you about the single biggest threat to our planet. You see, there is something out there which threatens our very existence and may be the end to the human race as we know it. I'm talking, of course, about Manbearpig. It is a creature which roams the Earth alone. It is half man, half bear, and half pig. Some people say that Manbearpig isn't real. Well , I'm here to tell you now, Manbearpig is very real, and he most certainly exists—I'm cereal. Manbearpig doesn't care who you are or what you've done. Manbearpig simply wants to get you. I'm super cereal. But have no fear, because I am here to save you. And someday, when the world is rid of Manbearpig, everyone will say, "Thank you Al Gore—you're super awesome!" The end
 
I couldn't care less about global warming. What I do care about is polluting the crap out of our planet. We shouldn't be mindful of that because it may or may not be heating up the atmosphere, we should be mindful of it because it IS plaguing our children (the future us) with death and chronic illness.
 
Group sees 'global governance' as solution

Until last week, Carol M. Browner, President-elect Barack Obama's pick as global warming czar, was listed as one of 14 leaders of a socialist group's Commission for a Sustainable World Society, which calls for "global governance" and says rich countries must shrink their economies to address climate change.

By Thursday, Mrs. Browner's name and biography had been removed from Socialist International's Web page, though a photo of her speaking June 30 to the group's congress in Greece was still available...........






We can always look on the bright side. Apply Socialism to the world's biggest con.......and the whole thing might be neutralized.

On another note.......this "scrubbing" of people's backgrounds (it started with "Sheets" Byrd - Bigot/West Virginia......and has really become popular with the Pre-President)........has evolved into some sort of new religion for them.

Here's Mrs. Browner's red/green pedigree......

From the Article:
Mrs. Browner ran the Environmental Protection Agency under President Clinton. Until she was tapped for the Obama administration, she was on the board of directors for the National Audubon Society, the League of Conservation Voters, the Center for American Progress and former Vice President Al Gore's Alliance for Climate Protection.
 
http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/article5489134.ece

Performing two Google searches from a desktop computer can generate about the same amount of carbon dioxide as boiling a kettle for a cup of tea, according to new research.


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So no more google searches from those of you worried about CO2.




ahaha they made that up. The scientist quoted never said that:p

http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/1...-that-stuff-about-google-and-the-tea-kettles/
 
Group sees 'global governance' as solution

Until last week, Carol M. Browner, President-elect Barack Obama's pick as global warming czar, was listed as one of 14 leaders of a socialist group's Commission for a Sustainable World Society, which calls for "global governance" and says rich countries must shrink their economies to address climate change.

By Thursday, Mrs. Browner's name and biography had been removed from Socialist International's Web page, though a photo of her speaking June 30 to the group's congress in Greece was still available...........






We can always look on the bright side. Apply Socialism to the world's biggest con.......and the whole thing might be neutralized.

On another note.......this "scrubbing" of people's backgrounds (it started with "Sheets" Byrd - Bigot/West Virginia......and has really become popular with the Pre-President)........has evolved into some sort of new religion for them.

Here's Mrs. Browner's red/green pedigree......

From the Article:
Mrs. Browner ran the Environmental Protection Agency under President Clinton. Until she was tapped for the Obama administration, she was on the board of directors for the National Audubon Society, the League of Conservation Voters, the Center for American Progress and former Vice President Al Gore's Alliance for Climate Protection.

She left all those groups to take this position. Whats the big deal?

(At least the guy isn't surrounding himself with "yes" men. Nothing wrong with listening to all angles. Jesus these anti-Obama people are just as annoying as the pro-Obama people.)
 
That is the most retarded stat I've ever seen. So lets put 4/100 of 1% of VX nerve gas into the atmosphere. WHO CARES, ITS SO SMALL!!!

And in the end, no one fucking knows. Either side. We simply don't have enough data points to solve this crap.

Wait wait wait, fly not spouting university-socialist-lite-earth-friendly-hey-look-Im-from-california crap?

Either way, agreed. Though if you even suggest that global warming is not a 'fact' most of the democractic base will accuse you of being hitler.