Ontopic Elementary school shooting
- Thread starter Mr. Argumentor
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I have no idea what the Brady Campaign used as their criteria nor do I care. I will only go by the deeds/votes and words used by the politician especially the words used before they seek a national office.
President Barack Obama and Gun Rights History
You dont care what the Brady Campaign said despite them being the equivalent of the NRA on the other side?
eileenbunny
Druish Princess
I dunno, but it doesn't sound sanitary at all. Leads to infection. Something Ape and Fly probably do every night.
You dont care what the Brady Campaign said despite them being the equivalent of the NRA on the other side?
I don't take what the Brady Campaign says nor do I take what the NRA says at face value. It called researching the candidates.
You research the candidates, but don't take into account the opinions of the two most powerful entities in this argument?
I prefer the candidates own words/deeds over the spin somebody else is trying to give me.
Mean Mr. Mustard
Always shouts out something obscene
Amstel
The Hoarse Whisperer
winning:
(WXYZ) - Police sources tell 7 Action News that a women's basketball coach from Martin Luther King, Jr. Senior High School shot two men who attacked him as he was walking two basketball players to their cars in the school parking lot.
Police sources say the coach was walking the two girls to their cars when two men allegedly approached and one pulled out a gun and grabbed him by his chain necklace. The coach then pulled out his gun and shot both of them, according to sources.
The man who shot the attackers was 70 years old, according to police.
One of the attackers was found dead in the median on Lafayette Boulevard, and the other was taken to a local hospital, according to police sources. We've learned that both of the men had attended the high school, and one had been recently expelled.
Police sources say the coach has a Concealed Pistol License and is reportedly a reserve police officer. They say he is fully cooperating with authorities.
Crime scene tape could be seen on Lafayette Boulevard and also around the back parking lot of the school near the gym.
Students could be seen being walked to their cars late Friday night.
The Detroit Public Schools issued this statement to 7 Action News:
At approximately 7:30pm DPS Police responded to a call of attempted robbery at Martin Luther King Jr. High School. DPS Police are cooperating with DPD which is handling the lead investigation.
We are very relieved that all students and DPS personnel and representatives involved are safe and were unharmed. Preliminary reports are that shots were fired during an attempted robbery of a member of the coaching team of the school’s girls basketball program by two assailants outside the school. There was one fatality and one injured suspect in serious condition.
The school has many security features which were in place at the time of the incident as well as a full security plan as do all DPS schools. These will be reviewed as the regularly are after any incidents. There will be counselors available at the school Monday morning for students and faculty members.
--Steve Wasko, Detroit Public Schools Spokesperson
Police sources say the coach was walking the two girls to their cars when two men allegedly approached and one pulled out a gun and grabbed him by his chain necklace. The coach then pulled out his gun and shot both of them, according to sources.
The man who shot the attackers was 70 years old, according to police.
One of the attackers was found dead in the median on Lafayette Boulevard, and the other was taken to a local hospital, according to police sources. We've learned that both of the men had attended the high school, and one had been recently expelled.
Police sources say the coach has a Concealed Pistol License and is reportedly a reserve police officer. They say he is fully cooperating with authorities.
Crime scene tape could be seen on Lafayette Boulevard and also around the back parking lot of the school near the gym.
Students could be seen being walked to their cars late Friday night.
The Detroit Public Schools issued this statement to 7 Action News:
At approximately 7:30pm DPS Police responded to a call of attempted robbery at Martin Luther King Jr. High School. DPS Police are cooperating with DPD which is handling the lead investigation.
We are very relieved that all students and DPS personnel and representatives involved are safe and were unharmed. Preliminary reports are that shots were fired during an attempted robbery of a member of the coaching team of the school’s girls basketball program by two assailants outside the school. There was one fatality and one injured suspect in serious condition.
The school has many security features which were in place at the time of the incident as well as a full security plan as do all DPS schools. These will be reviewed as the regularly are after any incidents. There will be counselors available at the school Monday morning for students and faculty members.
--Steve Wasko, Detroit Public Schools Spokesperson
Amstel
The Hoarse Whisperer
86 year old Louise Howard uses her gun to defend herself in her home.
6:06 PM Feb 04 2013 UPDATED: 5:52 PM Feb 04 2013
BULLS GAP, Tenn. - An 86-year-old woman grabbed a gun in self-defense when police say an intruder broke into her home. News 5 sat down with this woman today and listened to her tell about the experience.
Louise Howard lives just off a busy highway in Bulls Gap.
She told us she's been the victim of theft many times before, and she's had enough and it was time to take a stand.
"I told different people if I ever catch them, I mean to kill them," said Louise Howard.
Louise Howard may be 86 years old, but she isn't afraid to defend her home or her life.
On Friday afternoon she was forced to do that. Howard said a young woman broke the glass on her door and forced her way inside.
"I was in shock. I didn't know what she was going to do to me!" Howard said.
Howard immediately grabbed her gun, but the two started to struggle down the hall.
"I already had my gun in my hand, and I wouldn't turn it loose for anything," she explained.
Howard's hands are proof she wasn't letting go.
"She stuck a fingernail in there," said Howard. "She moved her hands sort of released me a bit. I moved over like that, and I was going to shoot her in the stomach, but she took her knee and hit my elbow."
The bullet ended up inside the wall where it still hides.
Sheriff Ronnie Lawson told us Howard was in her rights to use her gun for protection.
"All indications [were] the intruder, the female, has a wrench. It was what she used to break the window of the door so she could've defended herself," Sheriff Lawson explained.
Howard said she is a repeat victim of crime, "I decided I would put all of my valuables in my pocketbook, and they would be with me wherever I went and nobody would get it," she said.
But she still came out with a loss. Investigators said the suspect took her purse, that held two sets of keys, some rings, a bank card, and checkbook, but thankfully for her, nothing more valuable than that.
"I was more scared for my cat than I was for me, because I guess I'd give my life that cat I love him so," said Howard.
Sheriff Lawson described the suspect as a white female about 5'9" with a slender build, long dark hair, and a round face.
The suspect was seen leaving in a red car.
If you have any information you're asked to call the Hawkins County Sheriff's Department at (423) 272-4848
http://www.wcyb.com/news/86-year-ol...se/-/14590844/18404728/-/9fdio6z/-/index.html
6:06 PM Feb 04 2013 UPDATED: 5:52 PM Feb 04 2013
BULLS GAP, Tenn. - An 86-year-old woman grabbed a gun in self-defense when police say an intruder broke into her home. News 5 sat down with this woman today and listened to her tell about the experience.
Louise Howard lives just off a busy highway in Bulls Gap.
She told us she's been the victim of theft many times before, and she's had enough and it was time to take a stand.
"I told different people if I ever catch them, I mean to kill them," said Louise Howard.
Louise Howard may be 86 years old, but she isn't afraid to defend her home or her life.
On Friday afternoon she was forced to do that. Howard said a young woman broke the glass on her door and forced her way inside.
"I was in shock. I didn't know what she was going to do to me!" Howard said.
Howard immediately grabbed her gun, but the two started to struggle down the hall.
"I already had my gun in my hand, and I wouldn't turn it loose for anything," she explained.
Howard's hands are proof she wasn't letting go.
"She stuck a fingernail in there," said Howard. "She moved her hands sort of released me a bit. I moved over like that, and I was going to shoot her in the stomach, but she took her knee and hit my elbow."
The bullet ended up inside the wall where it still hides.
Sheriff Ronnie Lawson told us Howard was in her rights to use her gun for protection.
"All indications [were] the intruder, the female, has a wrench. It was what she used to break the window of the door so she could've defended herself," Sheriff Lawson explained.
Howard said she is a repeat victim of crime, "I decided I would put all of my valuables in my pocketbook, and they would be with me wherever I went and nobody would get it," she said.
But she still came out with a loss. Investigators said the suspect took her purse, that held two sets of keys, some rings, a bank card, and checkbook, but thankfully for her, nothing more valuable than that.
"I was more scared for my cat than I was for me, because I guess I'd give my life that cat I love him so," said Howard.
Sheriff Lawson described the suspect as a white female about 5'9" with a slender build, long dark hair, and a round face.
The suspect was seen leaving in a red car.
If you have any information you're asked to call the Hawkins County Sheriff's Department at (423) 272-4848
http://www.wcyb.com/news/86-year-ol...se/-/14590844/18404728/-/9fdio6z/-/index.html
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Syrup Beaver
pants log
Obama himself is pushing for a renewed AWB, magazine capacity restrictions, among other things - and that was part of his campaign before Newtown happened. I'm not sure how you could suggest that the man is in any fashion, for gun rights as you claim.
How many rights have gun owners lost during the past four years?
How many have they gained...
that's how.
Syrup Beaver
pants log
None of which has anything to do with him, if restrictions had made it to his desk, undoubtedly he would have signed them.
People that listen to the Brady campaign are worse than those that listen to Fox, MSNBC, etc.
Amstel
The Hoarse Whisperer
Syrup Beaver
pants log
Oh, and for the record, gun owners have not gained any rights over the last four years, only some restrictions have been removed.
Plus, I'd like you to tell me in your own words what rights you think those are, anyhow.
Plus, I'd like you to tell me in your own words what rights you think those are, anyhow.
Amstel
The Hoarse Whisperer
That is the lamest reply in the history of replies.
Because Obama's gun restriction efforts are failing you conclude he supports gun rights.
