FYI Greenland ice loss rates 'one-third' of what was thought

[plot]

duh.

if global warming experts came out tomorrow and said there is no such thing, they'd be out of a job. kind of a dumb thing for them to do isn't it?

 

[APRIL]

I love how you know for certain about everything.


What are this weeks lotto numbers?

He reads way too many economic books, seriously.

 

[APRIL]

duh.

if global warming experts came out tomorrow and said there is no such thing, they'd be out of a job. kind of a dumb thing for them to do isn't it?

Shh, you'll upset a few people on this board.

 

[fly]

I love how you know for certain about everything.


What are this weeks lotto numbers?

I read a lot. But most importantly, to use FlamingGlory's excuse, I really only try to comment on things I'm very familiar with.

Books I've read on this topic:

Collapse by Jared Diamond
Collapse by Michael Ruppert

 

[OzSTEEZ]

If only there was a way to scale back civilization a bit and focus on wind and solar energy and fewer iPhones and not being fabulous all the time.

The entire Western U.S. should be blanketed in solar panels at this point, generating 80 quintillion niggawatts. That's enough for some seriously pimpin' automobiles and DDR machines.

Every roof should be solar panels. And then move to the desert.

 

[Casper]

If only there was a way to scale back civilization a bit and focus on wind and solar energy and fewer iPhones and not being fabulous all the time.

The entire Western U.S. should be blanketed in solar panels at this point, generating 80 quintillion niggawatts. That's enough for some seriously pimpin' automobiles and DDR machines.

/racist.

 

[Syrup Beaver]

I take it that it relies on wood? And it looks as if that's good for electricity creation, but oil = transportation.

Au contraire, my fine-feathered friend.

A wood gasifier can be connected to the intake of an internal-combustion engine.

http://www.green-trust.org/woodgas.htm

FEMA even has a paper on it:

http://www.woodgas.net/files/FEMA emergency gassifer.pdf

 

[Syrup Beaver]

Every roof should be solar panels. And then move to the desert.

So who's going to cover the $30,000 - $50,000 expense for that?

 

[Casper]

So who's going to cover the $30,000 - $50,000 expense for that?

Australia's booming economy.

 

[plot]

coal is and will remain for a long time the cheapest source of energy we had. nuclear is easily the cleanest we have but it's so bogged down with regulations and people who know nothing but fear everything keeping it down it'll never be cheap and easy to do.

solar and wind are both still developing, and both still require equal output from traditional plants to make up for times when it's... you know, not windy or dark outside. there's a huge expense associated with having a traditional plant sit idle that's never taken into consideration with "solar panels on your roof"... with commercial wind, it IS taken into a consideration and that's what drives it cost way up.

 

[FancyVest]

It is GREENLAND ... it doesn't have ice. DUH

 

[fly]

coal is and will remain for a long time the cheapest source of energy we had. nuclear is easily the cleanest we have but it's so bogged down with regulations and people who know nothing but fear everything keeping it down it'll never be cheap and easy to do.

solar and wind are both still developing, and both still require equal output from traditional plants to make up for times when it's... you know, not windy or dark outside. there's a huge expense associated with having a traditional plant sit idle that's never taken into consideration with "solar panels on your roof"... with commercial wind, it IS taken into a consideration and that's what drives it cost way up.

Coal is getting more and more expensive by the day tho. Mostly thanks to the coal companies promoting "clean coal". Not only is that obviously bullshit, all "clean coal" covers is CO2 sequestering, which is a tiny fucking part of coal pollution. No one even wants to touch the third rail of coal - coal ash, who's disposal still isn't even regulated.

 

[JAXvillain]

coal ash catastrophe in TN a couple years ago

 

[OzSTEEZ]

So who's going to cover the $30,000 - $50,000 expense for that?

What's covered America's expenses for the last few decades?

 

[Sarcasmo]

Aliens?

 

[OzSTEEZ]

Aliens?

2 for 2 in this thread 'casmo!!

 

[Sarcasmo]

YESSSSS

 

[kiwi]

What's covered America's expenses for the last few decades?

Greenland obviously, since that is the country this thread is about.

 

[eileenbunny]

Well with this good news I think I'll start throwing my trash on the ground, drive around the biggest most obnoxious ride I can find, pour chemicals all over my lawn, and burn down the forest closest to my house. It doesn't matter right?

 

[JAXvillain]

don't forget to start a few tire fires!